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He could also buy them from other dealers... some US dealers don't even want to touch Canadian coins...
"Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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all of these autions have a section that says ask a question. if you ask, does it automatically get published, or does the seller get to ok it or not?
i was thinking something along the lines of" dont you feel bad that you are duping people? this is not a small date"
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I send at least an email per week to ebay sellers telling them that they are misrepresenting their wares. It usually ends with them ending the auction, but some just block me from bidding on their stuff. |
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wazzappenning - the question and answer do not automatically get published. The seller has the option to add.
Steve
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@SPP you are right ! The Us dealers are a wonderful source of Canadian material and have been for years. If it is a choice of a regional Canadian show or a US show................where's my passport ? US coin dealers just plain do not want the stuff for the most part unless it is known rarity or a 1948 dollar. As to Centsles and a few other Big NAME DEALERS on the BAY it really is Caveat Emptor. They need for an education amongst those who wish to collect coins and be apart of our great hobby has NEVER been more urgent. To all the newer collectors out there, heed this advice. Before you buy another coin, spend some time and money on getting educated!
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There sure is a great supply in the US over ebay. The main problem I find is that they use the international shipping tool that charges a large amount for shipping costs plus the ridiculous import charges. I have never been charged an import fee when buying coins from the US over ebay, but the shipping tool charges them. So I stay away and won't bid from those sellers using the tool. Then a lot of US sellers offering Canadian material, won't deal with Canadians and only deal with US buyers. I'm sure they could generate a lot more revenue for their coins if they bypassed the shipping tool and offered shipping to Canadian buyers. Sometimes, I communicate with US sellers and they can drastically reduce their shipping fees and eliminate the import charges altogether. It's a cash grab for someone! Frustrating!  Edited by steve123
02/12/2015 2:26 pm
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Canada
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Yes.. I agree Steve, the shipping charge some of the U.S. sellers charge is crazy, I have a great friend that is an ebay seller that only charges $1.50 U.S. to mail the coins, and sells tons of coins, and I think it's mostly because of the shipping price.  |
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On the topic of shipping, many US vendors belong to the PB Global Shipping program which charges taxes and brokerage fees up front, hence the ludicrous expense. As mentioned above, some vendors will ship coins via regular "letter mail" but that is against postal policy. USPS has a few products in between that can be used to ship.
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United States
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U.S. sellers really have two options for shipping individual coins: Lettermail with no protection at all, or tracked 1st class...
One costs $1.10, one costs $5.79
I can certainly understand why a risk adverse seller would avoid shipping internationally, especially for items less than $50 each
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many US vendors belong to the PB Global Shipping program which charges taxes and brokerage fees up front, hence the ludicrous expense Coin Hunter, you touched on a dicey subject here. Have you or anyone else ever followed this GS trap, even compared charges from within one sellers listing? your hair will grow again watching such a rip off. Just look at the shipping cost of same or equal items. Then get your friend to check it a day later... suddenly shipping cost and the other fee has changed.
I am wondering if Pitney Bowes does actually have all the appropriate licenses from the CAN government and respective province which are not part of the HST system. One thing for sure, neither ebay not Pitney Bowes have a PA from me entitling them to act on my behalf with CBSA. They have to have an original to be valid, or as a minimum, have an original on file. Plus their tax and business licenses must be available if requested. I did and got no reply. then I need to ask the question of the import fees they charge. NOT at all in agreement with Canadian Tariffs.
If I come across a Seller using GS, I ask why his import licenses from the CAN Gov are not published. Remember, the seller is responsible for his listing!! Trust me, 8 out of 10 sellers have NO idea that their shipping cost are 25 Dollars for a $ 200 coin plus other fees, and rising with bids. they simply fell into the powerful ebay trap which is that GS is marked by default. and unless you un-mark it...well, u are stuck. A seller can still opt out before any bids were made. AND, did you know that the GS stuff is NOT visible outside the US (.COM domain). so when a US seller wants to see it, he has 2 choices: sign in as .CA or send him a screen shot ! Just another ebay rip off. I recently watched a coin very high end were shipping costs started with $ 15 and escalated to $ 46. Import fees were originally $ 22 and ended up being $ 437 and that on $ 1480 coin..... I rest my case... and all in US dollars. another day a similar coin attracted only about half these costs. beats me.. also remember: small print, whatever is says, rules and disclaimer it has, can not override a countries laws. Edited by 47P7
02/13/2015 12:05 pm
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Yes I total agree with that global shipping is a ripoffed :(
But there is lot of the coin out theer to do the buying and you don't have to do the deal with those seller.
My rule on the ebays is to try to buy only from the Canada seller who sell it the coin in our Canada dollar and not the US one that way you don't have to pay the big exchanges on currencies and also there is no any cutoms fees and duties and the taxes too.
SHOP IN CANADA ebay ITS YOU BEST DEAL AND NO HEADACHE!!
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Canada
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I agree with our French Canadian friend Gilles. I never buy on ebay from the USA. (did once and learned my lesson). Also when buying from Canadian seller, I usually only buy from seller using Canadian dollars that doesn't charge taxes. If I bid on a coin that has US dollars, (which is not often) I convert what that would be in Canadian funds before bidding. This is another pet peeve of mine I will save for another time. Edited by JimmyD
02/13/2015 2:00 pm
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Canada
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The GS program has always been a hot topic on ebay forums and largely thought of as a rip off. I couldn't agree more. A a rule I don't buy from vendors who use it. It's for that reason I carry a US account and address to accommodate buying and shipping coins and bullion from the US and importing it on my own when need be. It's a perk of living near a border. Coins are a world wide collectible and limiting yourself to a country or a currency to buy (or sell) coins is not necessarily a solution. Working with sellers on cost and shipping as well as clearly knowing the terms is the way to go. There are deals to be made worldwide, be it for Canadian or Foreign coins. I've bought some of the nicest Canadian copper in the UK. Both online and dealers. On the topic of taxes, I understand it adds to the overall cost of the items however many dealers have no choice but to do it within the very visible world online selling. It's not their fault. |
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Canada
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@pacificoin. unfortunately posting education here for those buyers getting scammed on ebay are not doing any good, since they obviously dont come here. would it be against ebay policy to have a dummy listing whose purpose is to inform? or maybe make it a real auction for information but include in the auction "or go look here" i dont know if links to other websites such as this one are allowed, also if naming individual sellers would be a faux pas. |
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United States
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Interesting about the guy in Florida, with such a bad rep most knowledgeable collectors shun the listings. We wont go into efficient market theory, but if you know exactly and expertly what you are buying there are bargains just because of the bad rep. Well it used to be for me I haven't done ebay in years |
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