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Do You Collect Coins Or Plastic Slabs?

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 Posted 02/16/2015  10:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add barryg to your friends list

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Slabbed coins are a pain to photograph

True, dat! Especially hard to photograph slabbed proof coins...
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 Posted 02/16/2015  10:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
See? That's one of the good things the TPG's brought about - the requirement to understand grading with sufficient granularity to make their differentiations worthwhile. The creation of the accompanying more-granular pricing structures brought better coins for lesser prices in common grades, making collecting more financially accessible. Like it or not, the post-TPG world will never be like the one before.
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 Posted 02/16/2015  11:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add WheatBack to your friends list
I prefer slabs. I also like my paper money graded by TPG as well. It is not that I can't grade I feel that it protects the coin and bill better than if it was in some flimsy flip. I buy raw too and I will not pay more for TPG coin or bill, but if the same coin was offered for sale at the same price and one was slabbed and the other was not, I would go with the slab 10/10 times.
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 Posted 02/17/2015  12:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CopperCastle to your friends list
TPG's are a necessary evil (especially when purchasing high-dollar coins on ebay). I wouldn't buy a non-slabbed Double Eagle, nor would I do a scratch test to verify authenticity. That being said, I currently own only 4 slabbed coins.
1) A gorgeous MS-63 Morgan dollar I purchased for a mere $26. I would have paid the same amount for it raw & will most likely crack it out for my 7070 when I work up the nerve.
2) An 18th century Spanish Reale. I don't want (as Swamper Bob coined them) "Unreal Reales"
3) A perfect Silver Eagle I purchased to commemorate the birth of my daughter.
4) I received a PCGS DCam Kennedy from my secret Santa.
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 Posted 02/17/2015  12:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
When it comes top banknotes, it is easily possible to slab them yourself between two stiff flat sheets of perspex (lucite), and weld them together with tiny droplets of acetone at the corners.
If want to unprison them, just carefully chamfer cut the corners of the perspex with a hacksaw.
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 Posted 02/17/2015  12:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list

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1) A gorgeous MS-63 Morgan dollar I purchased for a mere $26. I would have paid the same amount for it raw & will most likely crack it out for my 7070 when I work up the nerve.


There are Morgan issues with 50,000 examples in MS63 slabs. Unless it's a Condition Rarity in 63, crack it without worry. Demand for these will never exceed supply.
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 Posted 03/04/2015  10:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mritchie77 to your friends list
I'm am rather young, and so far my most expensive coin ended up at $65. (MS65 graded Carver half by PCGS). I like slabs because it makes storing easier (yes coins can tone in a slab but if my slabs are in a container I sleep safely at night)but also because I am incredibly OCD. The slabs offer a great way of protecting, insuring future liquidity, and also quickly identifying coins for storage.
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 Posted 03/05/2015  3:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yooper to your friends list
The only slabbed coin I have bought is an 1877-s Trade dollar for my type set. Cracked it out of the slab. I bought it to ensure authenticity because of all the fakes floating around out there. Also the price was comparable to raw coins.
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 Posted 03/05/2015  4:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matthewvincent to your friends list
I collect coins. Slabs have become, for well or ill, part of the 'hobby.'
I place hobby in quotes because to the best of my memory slabs were to make coins an investment
vehicle for the non-collector.
"To be traded sight unseen."
No collector believes that today. "Buy the coin and not the slab" is stated here daily.

I have slabbed coins that were passed down from family to guarantee authenticity. And to sell.
I have cracked slabs to place the coins in an album.
I have done so based upon my own goals which are mine alone.
And I would not presume to suggest to another what course of action to take.
Except:
LEARN! And then learn more.
Finally, follow your own comfort level.

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 Posted 03/05/2015  4:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
Does the ANA display slabbed coins?
I have been in the strong room of the Coins and Medals Department of the British Museum, and there wasn't a single slab to be seen anywhere.
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 Posted 03/05/2015  7:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rottnrog to your friends list
I collect error coins and Sample slabs !
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 Posted 03/08/2015  8:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinlover168 to your friends list
sel_69l, the ANA Money Museum does not use slabs or TPG, but I'm guessing they had them or another expert take a look to very authenticity. The National Collection housed in the Smithsonian, on the other hand, is slabbed but not graded. The slabs are designed by NGC and are more for protection than authentication and grading.
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 Posted 03/09/2015  09:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list
I prefer my coins raw personally. I like to be able to look at the coin, to rotate it in my fingers (and I don't buy many coins in grades high enough for such things to matter - and not only due to that).

If I want to keep a coin safe, I put it in a tiny ziploc bag. Some might well consider it a primitive type of plastic slabbing already.
It's easily reversible, however - that is to say, it is very easy both to put a coin in a ziploc and to take it out (and of course if a coin is in AU or higher, I'd probably rather look at it through the thin polyethylene layer of a ziploc bag than risk damaging it with insufficiently clean fingers).
Most of the coins in my collection are normally located in ziploc bags (though many of these bags contain more than one coin).

The next step in slabbing is the flip - uncommon but useful; it's a harder version of the ziploc, protecting much better from the damage, but almost as reversible.
However, a flip puts a lot of restriction on the size of a coin that can be placed there; coins slightly larger than the ideal size won't fit at all, while coins slightly smaller end up bouncing all over.
My collection has, I think, perhaps three or four flips, most of them dating from before I joined CCF; more could've helped, but sources have been lacking lately.

The step after that - and by far more common than the previous - is the 2x2 holder; the body of the holder is typically made of some kind of cardboard, so it really only counts as a plastic slab due to the thin layer of polyethylene (or, rarely, some other plastic - they're pretty much indistinguishable in such contexts) over the empty cicrle in the cardboard.
It is not normally easily reversible the way a flip is; except for very rare cases, a coin bought in a 2x2 holder will stay in it, and a coin bought without such a holder acquiring one is rarer still. It also doesn't protect the coin from damage any more than a ziploc bag does (at least as far as damage to the fields goes - rims are protected much better).
It is, however, for some inexplicable reason, incredibly popular with coin dealers; leading to dozens upon dozens of otherwise great coins being put in ugly 2x2 holders, where one can't even look at their edge properly.

Finally, somewhat outstandingly, there is the one actual plastic slab in my collection. It is made of acrylic glass, held together with a bunch of metal screw nails, and contains about a dozen various German pre-euro coins (including several from the 1870s).
I bought it for only $7 (using the exchange rate of the time), and would've probably made more money than that just selling the coins in there; however, it is so beautiful - in its sheer weirdness if nothing else - that I just don't want to get rid of it anyway.
(Anyone still wants to say that they don't collect plastic slabs at all? I'm sure that many of them would've paid even more than $7 to get something similar.)

To end the point: I would've probably loved to get an example of a coin actually slabbed by TPG, but I just don't have that kind of money; I did, in fact, at one point consider buying a slabbed coin, but decided that I didn't want to spend so much money (IIRC, the store wanted $75).
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 Posted 03/09/2015  8:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TheForce to your friends list
To me, the "slab" offers some sort of legitimacy and authenticity to the coin. If your spending big bucks on a coin it would be nice to have peace of mind that you are getting exactly what you are paying for. There are too many fakes out there. After you own said coin, then by all means bust the slab open.
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 Posted 03/10/2015  12:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SPQR to your friends list
Slabs were invented with two goals in mind:
To remove the subjective interpretation of the Sheldon scale, and to make coins an easier investment for non-enthusiasts.
The Sheldon scale is quite honestly kind of like Chinese stereo instructions for non-coin people. So to make it easier for dealers to push coins out to the non enthusiast, as investments, the slab is perfect.
It's also a continuous, never-ending bone of contention between collectors and dealers. One man's MS65 is another's MS68, and so on. Slabs help with this but as we know are far from infallible.

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