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Valued Member
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Pacific was it a rare token? What does NVM mean?
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Bedrock of the Community
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Not really rare , but just pleasing and totally original as all of the Landon stuff is. We are very pleased with the tokens from the sale. Just true collectors grade material that is very difficult to acquire in today's coin market. We were lucky enough to purchase many of the silver Newfy and Canadian lots from the sale and they grade from pleasing Vg to Exf. This type of Victorian coinage is very difficult and will easily bring close to current trends or MORE.
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Forum Dad
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im not sure why the Landon thread has been subdivided into this extra discussion..it should be just one thread.....as far as ebay goes ....its natural that ebay could be a main point of sale for the bulk of the Landon Collection .....most of us didnt participate in the original auction..The fact that this collection in particular has been noted on the holders as LANDON by ICCS will add value to the trends price in itself as it has value and interest and has been termed a key pedigree collection so it shouldnt surprise anyone that prices will exceed trends prices..Trends prices in themselves are not the final word in value..ICCS doesn't recognize key variations especially double dates so many of these Landon coins will exceed normal prices as they contain variations. |
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You are quite correct there are numerous neat varieties that were not noted. We got a lot of the 1903 cents and there is one with just a huge die crack and a monster die clash. One lot of ungraded silver had three different 1886 ten cents and both obverses of the 1885 ten cents.
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Pac... I think we were looking at some of the similar lots... in which case I'm sorry I may have upped the bid via internet...
I'm at least glad the coins went to a nice place... I certainly can't wait to see the one lot of coins I did end up getting.. I hope there might be some goodies to discover
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it is all good hope you like your lot,let me know. The stuff I got am very very pleased. Lots of interesting coins. The account took a monster hit though. I sent you email on our discussion.
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Taiwan
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Pacificoin: Do you think that the TPG's look at a lot of these coins(Double dates,Die cracks,Die clashes,Etc) as "Die states" rather than true varieties and will not make note of it? |
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Die cracks and die clashes ARE "die states" and not varieties. In many cases, die cracks and clashes will drop a coin's value. They are just a sign of poorly operating machinery or dies preparing to fail and are entirely unintentioanl from the mint..
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Okiecoiner: I agree with you completely. This is one of my pet peeves
as people will use the term variety when it is actually a "Die state"
I have seen this occur in reference material and auction catalogs.
Thank you for the brief and to the point explanation.
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Everest and okie totally agree. However the Canadian market just loves these so called varieties. The real varieties in Canadian coins are few and far between for sure. I guess people will collect anything.
That said the different obverses on Victoria are truly varieties.
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the nomenclature of coin errors can be confusing....i just bought a Landon coin which I havent yet received and apparantly it has double and triple dating which is a good part of the reason I bought it.....this technically wouldnt be considered a variety but a die error however many collectors consider this type of die problem on a par with an actual variety so I dont understand the inconsistancy of the Pro Grading companies in describing this error on their coins......Some die errors get more respect than others and you only have to look to the USA to see that certain coins such as the 1955 DD cent get a huge premium for this error..in MS 65 its worth 5,000 and many Indian Head cents get huge premiums for DD types so why cant Canadian coins receive similar treatment? ICCS seems very inconsistant on this..... |
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Although I do not collect Victorian large cents, I do appreciate
the passion and knowledge that Large cent collectors share on
this forum.
Whether Die states or Varieties this series offers something for
everyone. There have been some great references written over the
past few decades, most recently Rob Turner's superb work.
It sure must have been a treat to view these pristine coins in
person.
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United States
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The thing is that large copper Canadian or American can in the right auction bring very strong money. Especailly if the auction draws in the non collecting general public and there's something else besides the coins that's collectible where the beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Example: I went to a State Treasurer's auction where the State Treasurer was selling abandoned property. There was a large amount of jewelry. Now most of it was costume but there were about five to ten ladies that all wanted it bad. This was sold in between the coins that literally went to the stars. What would you pay for a U.S.A. 1969 Proof Set. It is common and you can buy them at any show in America or Canada for $5.00 USD. Only this one at this auction went for an unbelievable $90.00 USD and that was just last year!
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