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A little Machine Doubling on the cent, nothing at all on the other coins. You should really invest some time in learning about what you are looking for rather than just looking for it. I don't mean to be cruel, but you show you really don't know what to look for when you post normal coins here thinking they are doubled. Maybe you might want to get one of the many books that teaches you what you're trying to find. You should learn about your editing software. Although knowing your camera is important, the editing software is where you are going to get your savings in pixel size and optimization, which will make your images far smaller in file size at near the same quality. Also you might want to consider proofreading your typing. I'm having a really hard time understanding you sometimes. |
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I DO NOT want to be in a book or magazine I know for sure that the cent the Quarter are doubled the half & nickle are Machine Doubling  Edited by amac44
09/30/2007 11:30 am
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Sorry Amac, only seeing machine doublinig.
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folke I know that this was not posted before but this may help U see what I see 1-O-1
I will be sending this and 9 other coin to Anacs this week I will post it when they make it back
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I don't know how to try and help you. You come here asking for opinions and when they aren't what you have in your head what they are then you just go with what you think it is anyway. I really hope you don't get disappointed when ANACS sends your coins back in a regular slab with just regular grading and no attribution. Most of the people that have tried to tell you what you are looking at have seen these things a million times and know what to look for and your coins don't show the characteristics of a double die, they just don't have it. I think I will just throw up my hands and walk away from the keyboard on this one
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Dont you find it peculiar that every coin you look at has an error on it?
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Sorry, the cent is Mechanical Doubling. There is no doubling on any of the other coins. You are not looking at die doubling on any of these coins. You can either believe us or send them in to a slabber, pay a bunch of money and get the same result. No Doubling. We should start charging for answers:-) You really need to familiarize yourself with minting practices so that you can get an understanding of what you are looking for. The reflective surfaces of proof coins makes Mechanical Doubling seem to be even more pronounced than it might appear on a circulation strike coin. The odds of having all coins in a proof set that are doubled die varieties would be astronomical to the 10th power. Thanks, Bill Edited by foundinrolls
09/30/2007 6:54 pm
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I want to apologize if I sounded harsh in any way, its not that I am upset with amac44 I was upset at myself because I don't know how to help him. So please forgive me if I said the wrong thing
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Bryan, if someone was LOOKING for an arguement it might have sounded a little harsh. I think you were making yourself clear in that you can't change what you see. Nothing to worry about. Don't worry be happy.  |
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I did NOT say that quarter IS a dropped letter. I said it's definitely struck through, POSSIBLY a dropped letter. Once again, you mince what someone else says here to change it into what you want it to be.
And no matter what you see, you should drop the complete hard headedness and listen to people. Your coins are NOT doubled dies and will NOT be holdered as such by ANACS. You would be wasting your time and money sending them there.
You act like you are incapable of understanding and incapable of listening. You obviously don't get it, yet you won't listen when those who do tell you what you should do to quit wasting time. I'm beginning to wonder if you might be playing this "dumb" thing to get attention.
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Just like Chuck to cut right through the fecal material to get to the heart of the issue:-)
Chuck may have hit the nail on the proverbial head. We are happy to answer questions. We have seen the learning process take place on this forum with many people. On the other hand, there is either a lack of acceptance of the truth or a lack of learning in some cases with only a small few.
You do have to wonder if we are sometimes getting our chains pulled.
In the meantime if the small few make an effort , on their own to learn and understand what is being said, we should see an improvement in the posts from those few. When we see no improvement there is reason to ask....What's the Point of continuing to answer the posts from the few who seem not to move ahead with the learning process.
Believe me when I say, I personally understand the "wishful thinking" point of view but if doubled die varieties and major errors were as easy to find as some people seem to think, there wouldn't be much sense in collecting them.
They are at least scarce and many are downright rarities.
Some folks need to improve their skills with respect to understanding what they are looking at. Those that have are asking more intelligent questions. The very few who seem not to be improving their skills are getting boring.
Thanks...
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09/30/2007 10:51 pm
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umm , not that there is anything (for me)to add,of much merit.due to the previous posts ... i'll add .. amac44 . Please consider we are;or/that i'am not against you having found many errors. just please accept: that I've spent years searching coins as well as others here. so far, likely totaling over 1,000,000 (One Million) over my life time. others have searched; I mean inspected with a 'learn-ed eye ', into the millions. my point being that errors , only occurring perhaps once in a million or even (more likely)less(at least in 'modern coinage') are very elusive; at least for one individual to find many noteworthy (valuable) examples.this being said i'll consider that 'one' may have exceptional fortune and find many is at least possible even how unlikely (with-out) knowing , for example the difference between mechanical doubling(valueless)and(valuable doubled die(s)).my intent is aid you , in your ' knowledge ' of just what you have discovered. as through my experience , the others here also intend to do as well.. ok .. being a rescent (3 year)collector of die variety and error collector myself after a lapse in serious coin collecting, I do think and do perhaps appreciate your enthusiasm. for myself I encourage it (for you) and anyone , though you may take it opposite really never got discouraged about collecting coins ,i just allowed myself to explore 'other things' , you know .. ? collect what you 'Like ', i'd say ; just :: please don't expect others to , agree with your preference's ; if what you collect is of little interest to others..after all this is money we are talking about , and the bottom line is ; is my coin worth (valuable above)commonly found coins.?.learn what is above (not) common and search , save , those which are..man how many times (in my beginning) I found MDD's , die chips , cracks , ect. thinking Oh , I'm so much closer to retirement, only to 'Learn ' what I had discovered what 'common' and held no real (value) interest of the learned collector's fecal matter is 'peddeld' on the web all the time. does not make any of it valuable , which is .. what it is .. learning: what is valuable VS. which is not. discussed here on this forum a project; inform / in-form us ,those who are at least interested in learning the difference between ' valuable ' and realistically 'invaluable'.a 'book' currently under development by; a valuable member here ; coppercoins :
Author ' Charles Daughtry '.though there many other 'valuable' resources of such information. including "Looking through lincoln cents " by CD ('chuck' daughtry) and many others , including long time author ' Alan Herbert' and his "Official* Price guide to MINT ERRORS ".which to me is as close to a must read as i'am aware of ; for learning the minting process(es) and subsequent coins that are released.Chapter one heading being "Why minting Varieties and not "Errors"? all these words being hand typed by a 'hunt _N_ pek typer . cause wei care. and sincerely wish (intend)to aid (help)you. "To err is human ; to forgive is Divine" Plese forgive me if this has come across as harsh ,to amac44 and all others concerned.
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10/02/2007 9:30 pm
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I hope I don't gey busted for saying this but I think the last few comments were rather harsh. I know some folks here are frustrated but I don't think what was written was helpful. Amac44 may I make a few suggestions? First keep these coins you have posted and the pics and use them for future reference for what is NOT a doubled die. Also there is a very good book out there Official Price Guide to Mint Errors 7th Edition by Alan Herbert. It describes the minting process from step one. The listed errors with pics describe how the errors could have occured while they were in the process of being made. Get the book and study it. I think it will help indentify many of the coins you have found. Also try to get your hands on a true double die. Study it and compare it to your findings. I've been on this forum a while and I'm still working on learning about doubled varieties and doubled dies and other stuff. Don't get frustrated and give up. I have gotten frustrated but I am still working on it. It's not easy.  Also I am nowhere near an expert but some of the pics posted are obvious Machine Doubling even to me. Especially the quarter with the 7 and LIBERTY. For the experts, the pic posted with GOD, is that what is can referred to as an overflow?  Edited by thingee
10/01/2007 01:41 am
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It Ok what they say. I have been told I wrong with amost every post.
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