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Pillar of the Community
United States
632 Posts |
another vote for silver. and yes if you insist on gold andrew is right...go for the one ounce coins.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
20753 Posts |
Just starting or thinking about starting. Either way, most answers already mentioned. Another vote for Silver though.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
533 Posts |
I would go with silver. Personally I like the fact that you can get quite a bit for no too much money. If you were talking thousands of dollars, go gold, but since I buy a little at a time I prefer silver.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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btc624, ignore most of these posts. If you want to COLLECT 1/10 oz gold bullion coins go right ahead and more power to you. If you like the little gold pieces then I think that is great. (If you are looking at them as an investment as well then the people who said to wait and buy the oz coins are right, but for collecting purposes collect what you like.) As a collection I see no reason to bother with certification. It would only make sense if you were trying for a top Registry level set. As for which are "better" unc or proof, the cost for 1/10 oz coins should be low enough there is no reason why you couldn't do both. quote: Also, acquiring these does not necessarily constitute collecting except perhaps in the sense that you would be gathering them together. It's more "investing," or maybe "amassing" or "hoarding."
If he is acquiring them with the goal of getting one piece of each date and not picking up duplicates then he is collecting them, not amassing, or hoarding. And a full set of some 20 uncs and 20 proofs plus the 1995 W Unc error makes a nice set. And you are looking at close to $3,000 just in metal content alone. And if you get the complete set you can keep it going each year and maybe expand out into the 1/10 oz piece issued by other countries, either by type or by date on those as well. It is kind of odd seeing someone come on here and say he is planing to collect X and a bunch of people coming on and telling him "No you should collect Y". Does this only happen because it was a bullion coin? If he had come on here and announced that he wanted to collect say V nickels, would a bunch of people started telling him "No you should collect Morgan dollars because they are big silver and popular."? Or would they say "No collect Buffalo nickels, they're hot!"? It's his collection, let him collect what appeals to him.
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Valued Member
United States
335 Posts |
I don't like the fact that everyone seems to charge a premium, almost as much as on a $50 piece. Anyone find a company with good prices?
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Valued Member
United States
193 Posts |
quote: don't like the fact that everyone seems to charge a premium, almost as much as on a $50 piece. Anyone find a company with good prices?
How do you expect them to stay in business? Premium = profit = pay light bill = eat as a Buyer, you can and should look for the lowest price (spot + premium), But to expect not to pay a premium I think is unrealistic.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
764 Posts |
i dont have an interest in them myself, but I would be impressed with a set in mint packaging.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1984 Posts |
btc, Don't ignore any of these posts. Read them all and decide for yourself. Your original posts suggests you are aware that 1/10 gold bullion coins are primarily bullion and only nominally 'coins.' I doubt you're going to be using them in place of $5 bills any time soon. quote: If he is acquiring them with the goal of getting one piece of each date and not picking up duplicates then he is collecting them, not amassing, or hoarding.
That's a big IF. btc624 doesn't say that he is going to be buying one of each date and type. He says he is going to be collecting them. I inferred from the original post that btc is concerned with value as bullion and that since he is not talking about buying 1 oz. coins that he does not have unlimited means. If I am wrong in those assumptions, it doesn't change the fact that in order to be considered a collection, there needs to be some sense of order. If I buy a roll of 1964 uncirculated half dollars do I have a collection? I happen not to think so. I suggest that prior to deciding to collect something, btc should determine what his ultimate goal is. Is it to have a hoard of gold bullion or a collection of gold coins? There is an important distinction to be made whether or not you think so. Here's how I see the difference between a hoard and a collection: When I die, I want people to be able to look at my coins and say, "Ah I see what he was trying to do," rather than, "What the H-was he thinking?" Anyone embarking on a collection might want to consider their own standards and what they hope to achieve. quote: It is kind of odd seeing someone come on here and say he is planing to collect X and a bunch of people coming on and telling him "No you should collect Y".
I don't find it odd at all. btc didn't say how he arrived at his decision to collect 1/10 ounce gold bullion coins and it's quite legitimate to point out (since this is a coin collecting forum) that bullion "coins" are generally valued as bullion and values will likely always be tied to the price of the underlying commodity. I applaud the imagination of my fellow members in making suggestions for btc to consider as he embarks on his collection. btc is of course free to do what he wants, but if he is interested in increasing value as he collects, he might be wise to consider silver as I believe it has the potential to outperform long-term. Silver eagles and gold 1/10s would make a nice-looking set. Ultimately, I think Conder's argument would be much stronger if it didn't include the exhortation to ignore the rest of us.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2269 Posts |
BTC,
Whatever you decide to collect, just remember to have fun doing it.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1984 Posts |
Yep, if it isn't fun, don't do it. The only person you have to please is yourself.
However, no matter what you hear to the contrary about small being beautiful, my wife often reminds me that size, in fact, does matter.
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New Member
 United States
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wow alot of responses to my question and I appreciate each and every one of them. I should have went into greater detail on my goals. I would like to collect each date starting in 1986 to the present, I also would like to collect various other gold coins ($3 princess, buffalo, etc). This is something to strictly collect, not an ivestment, I like to buy what appeals to me. I would seek graded coins like the $3 princess gold piece in graded condition. As for my 1/10th ounce collection, I am torn between the proof coin that the mint puts out (like the silver eagle) with its special packaging or a graded version. Between both which would you choose? Oh and the decision to select the 1/10 was because I could in fact acquire more coins and possibly expand on that collection to include pandas and australian kangaroos :-) Again many thanks for all the replies as they all had merit :-)
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1984 Posts |
Ah, that makes perfect sense now. As for your choice, if the aesthetics are the same to you I myself would always go for the cheaper one. 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2269 Posts |
quote: As for your choice, if the aesthetics are the same to you I myself would always go for the cheaper one.
I couldn't agree more.
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Valued Member
United States
455 Posts |
I agree the 1/10 ounze AGEs are beautiful coins and VERY collectable. Sure they trade a premium, they're proof. Also, smaller quantities are always more expensive, whatever your're buying. I like the proofs better than the uncirculated pieces. They're much sharper, a lot nicer to look at, more enjoyable, and so on. I'm not close to the market, I buy them cause I love them. I've never sold a coin, or a bullion piece. Check ebay though, I'm almost certain the proofs sell for a premium. You should find this reassuring if you buying proofs because you know you'll get your premium back if and when you sell. Enjoy the hobby. That's what it's all about.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
17884 Posts |
As far as the proof 1/10 oz coins go you have to balance several considerations. The slabbed versions have the advantage of uniformity of presentation and that they require less storage space. On the other hand they look very impressive in their government issued holders. Then you have to factor in the fact that you will probably have to pay a higher cost for the slabbed coins, especially if you chase the very top graded coins.
On the $3 gold pieces . . . Listen up folks, this is something I almost never say...I would only buy them slabbed by one of the top six firms. There are just too many fake $3 gold pieces out there. When ANACS was formed 90% of all of the $3 gold and Type II gold dollars submitted to them were fake. And many other have been cleaned and/or used for jewelery purposes.
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