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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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That toning is quite nice, if natural, seems like an AU-50 to me.
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New Member
 United States
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Very thankful for all the support and information you all have provided!
Would you recommend getting this coin graded by NGC or PCGS?
Also if I were to put this coin on the traders market, where would be the best place to put it so it falls into the right collectors hands?
Thanks again in advance, hope everyone has a great Friday and weekend!
Best,
Julie
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 United States
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Julie, this is the third identical thread you've started on this coin. That is considered a major faux pas in online communities - it dilutes the replies by scattering them, and each extra thread pushes another off the first page. Please keep individual coins to single threads. This coin - as I mentioned in my last post - is not viable in the market without TPG slabbing. Buyers do not trust raw Trade dollars. Too many counterfeits exist. Once slabbed, it should probably be offered through one of the major auction houses such as Heritage or Great Collections. It's a niche coin and needs to be in front of a specialized audience as you've already figured. If it were my coin, I would probably submit it through the TPG's Conservation Service. PCGS and NGC (I'd recommend PCGS) both do this. The toning greatly detracts from the value, and it's possible the TPG can remove it without damaging the coin. It would still likely be in a Details slab, but the eye appeal will be vastly improved. |
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United States
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I hate to be a downer here but I am pretty confident this coin is not genuine. All the 1878-CC Trade dollars have a type II reverse. One of the identifiers of a type II reverse is the the tip of the lowest arrow lines up with the middle of the 2. On this coin the tip of the lowest arrow lines up with the right side of the 2 indicating that the model coin to make the reverse of this coin had a type I reverse. That combined with lacking details in the feathers and branch held by Liberty, lack of sharpness and crispness of the reverse lettering, and the odd short looking reverse denticles, I think makes a strong case for this coin being spurious. |
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United States
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Very sorry SuperDave, wasn't sure if the post went up and whether I was posting on the right forum category. You are absolutely right and again I do apologize.
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United States
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That is definitely a Type I reverse on a year they only used Type II's. Look at the left wing tip on reverse, it should touch the second arrow, it doesn't. Look at the leaf that should come down before the "F" in "Fine", it doesn't.
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New Member
United States
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I noticed that the first C in "CC" mintmark is right in between the E and D in " Trade dollar" unlike others I saw where it was closer to the D in Dollar. Also the bottom arrow look to be inbetween the 2 and 0 in "420" unlike others I have seen closer to the middle of the 2 in "420" |
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Do you know how this coin was stored by chance?
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Valued Member
United States
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The obverse looks off (leaves, Liberty's face/head).
I think this is a fake.
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United States
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Don't worry about any of the forum things. Coin Community is a teaching community by mission, and we'll happily teach a new collector whatever they need to know to succeed in today's numismatic world.  I fear some attention needs to be paid to paddy murphy and Double Eagle. I am not the local expert on Trade dollars, and they're better-qualified to judge. Let's not worry about the color for the moment. Try the best you can to get clear images with the coin nice and square to the camera, as angled shots distort the relationships between features which help define the coin's authenticity. We can then tell for sure if the reverse design is one used in that year. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The only definitive test that will meet YOUR inquiry is for YOU to send the coin in for third party grading. ANACS would probably be your most economical option and quickest turnaround time. There is no membership fee to submit.
You can find all the info you need regarding submissions online.
Good luck!
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New Member
United States
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Thanks for your comments everyone. Really appreciate the feedback. Due to the pictures being taken on an angle and not being able to determine proper proportions, I have taken 2 new ones that are flat and straight on. Hope these help determine whether this coin is real or not and grade. Best, Julie   |
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United States
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Thank you, Julie. This is undoubtedly a Type 1 Reverse, not used in 1878.  |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Here's photos of a NGC coin for comparison.   Sorry, but I think she has a counterfeit. Edited by IndianGoldEagle
03/03/2015 09:42 am
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