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Canon Rebel T5i

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 Posted 04/18/2015  6:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rocky to your friends list
well dave went to a pawn shop. I have purchased a canon eos rebel xti. I got a great deal I think on the camera. I have to wait for my son to download the software from the canon site. I have been taking a few photos by squeezing the shutter myself the camera seems to work very well. the macros setting on this camera and lens is very good on its own. so after I get everything up and running. I will post here again and with you and the members help. I think I will get there this is a very nice camera a bite different then the t5. thank you
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 Posted 04/19/2015  9:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rocky to your friends list
ok have a few pictures. I have taken with the used camera with a bellows attached and 75 el nikkor lens. all I did was down size and then crop. this is me pulling the shutter button . the 2 janso lamps are at 3 and 9 oclock right next to the lens

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 Posted 04/20/2015  5:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dar to your friends list
Did you leave the lights in the same 3 and 9 positions when taking All the pictures?

The reason I ask is because the difference in the copper and the bi-metalic.

Copper looks as though there is a strip in the center that is brighter and on the bi-metalic it looks darker.

I imagine it's because of the reflectance of the different metals? If I'm saying that correctly.
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 Posted 04/20/2015  7:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rocky to your friends list
yes dar I never moved the lights. I left them in the same position. I am wondering thou about this process. I have read mark goodman book the second addition. I have studied that book . I took some time to think about what he is saying and what we are doing here. if I am correct in my thoughts what he is doing and what we are doing is only similar but different. I think if one flowed his book we would approach light slightly differently. I believe he takes his images from a distance. they are really great photos very sharp. now after reading the thread about photo editing and doing more research. finding out when we resize images we are removing pixels. I am wondering has anyone took the time. to take a good zoom lenses and take and image of a coin. to see what they get and would be easier to light the coin. I am sure some one must have tried this. if some one has please post before I go and buy one of these big lenses to find out what one would get for results. thank you all
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 Posted 04/20/2015  7:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
Zoom lenses are lousy for coins, rocky. The only way they work is by making compromises in quality that go against what we need here.

Your current setup is as good as can be assembled for the money, and is capable of work as good as anyone around here. Your El Nikkor is probably the best of anything available at the price. Let's work on getting those images large enough to post for proper evaluation - they're far too small and a bunch smaller than CCF's Uploader can handle.

Mark shoots at the same distances from the coin as anyone else. The lens decides how close it needs to be based on focal length and magnification, not the photographer.
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 Posted 04/20/2015  9:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rmpsrpms to your friends list
The pics look pretty good for first pass review. You might want to do a little with lighting (move to 10:00 and 2:00, add a little diffusion), and work on your camera settings (reduce contrast on the shinier coins).
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 Posted 04/21/2015  2:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rocky to your friends list
question dave the camera I purchased at the pawn shop. when I connect it to the computer. the screen opens for remote taking pictures. but there is no live view. one can take pictures and make adjustments but there is no live view. the camera lense is cracked at the end and the memory card spring is broke. the guy at the pawn shop told me if it did not function properly. I can return it so I think I will. I have purchased a brand new canon t5 this time all the soft ware loaded plus a photo editing program that looks really good. I will take some pictures later to night after I come back from to club meeting. thank you dave, bill and members
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 Posted 04/21/2015  9:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rocky to your friends list
ok dave took some pictures with the lamps diffused at 10 and 2 o clock penny and dime the new t5 set on AV mode its getting a lot easier I never touched the setting and I have to print the manual to be able to use the photo editor. I tried but for some reason I still cannot figure out the sets to use it. its a great program glad I have stuck with the canon t5 rebel camera thank you guys for keeping me in the right direction

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 Posted 04/24/2015  7:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rocky to your friends list
hello dave trying to figure out how to use this canon picture editing program that comes on the cds that are with the canon camera. I was wondering do you know anything about these photo editing programs. Canon Picture Style Editor. so far I have found out one has to take the photos in raw mode. what do this mean. dave I know your busy what would you recommend for a program to edit coin photos. can I use this program of canons. I am not sure, thank you have a great day
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 Posted 04/24/2015  7:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rocky to your friends list
yes dave done some more reading . ones you do one picture say a penny as long as all I do is pennies. this program will automatically change every penny picture I take with the camera. I guess when you set this program it goes right I to your live view and automatically adjust all penny photos. so when you change to a new coin you have to start a new setup for that partial coin . once you have all the coin you are going to photo the program changes every time you do a different coin automatically. if I am reading this right. I don't know if I like that idea . if you get a change. could you see if this is correct please. thank you
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 Posted 04/24/2015  10:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
Honestly, I don't know that Canon editor at all, because I've been using the software I use for so long. I never learned it. The things you'll need to do to edit your pics aren't complicated enough to learn the Gimp as I use - there are a bunch of free and relatively easy editing programs. All you need is to crop, resize, sharpen and maybe play with color a little bit if the white balance isn't as good as you'd like.

Maybe we need a new thread on image editors. Let's see what I can do.
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 Posted 04/25/2015  8:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rocky to your friends list
I am very surprised. I attached me camera kit lenses to the bellows zoomed it all the way out. adjusted the tripod played with the focus a little. took 4 pictures 2 of both sides of a very pristine penny. I then put the elnikkor lenses on and adjusted focused and took 4 more pictures of the same coin. I was amazed either my camera skills are improving that much but there is no different in the photos. I am very pleased that the bellows. can has this kind of effect on my kit lenses. it is the lenses that I receive when I purchased the canon it is a efs 18-55 mm with a macro 0.25m/0.8ft. there is no differents in the 8 photos. that I can see. I need to find a photo editing program that I can use. I will show you the 2 sets of images so you can all see for yourselves
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 Posted 04/26/2015  08:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
These images are a lot larger than you know, I think. Mounting am 18-55 on a bellows is going to increase the magnification it gives and help it focus more closely, but there is no bellows which will make that lens as sharp as the 75mm El-Nikkor.

So this is the time to concentrate on figuring out just how large these images are. When you see them full size - you're only going to be able to see a third of the coin on your screen - you'll see the superiority of the Nikon's details. The other concentration for the moment is to figure out how to post them larger here.
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 Posted 04/26/2015  8:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rocky to your friends list
well I took more pictures tonight all I did was crop in photo gallery. I kept down sizing until the photo was under 100 kb about 92 or 94 total kb. I have borrowed a macro lens a canon ef 100mm f2/8 usm here is a couple of photos I believe the el-nikkor out shoots it. actually the kit lense on the bellows bites it as far as I can tell here is a couple of photos

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 Posted 04/27/2015  09:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rocky to your friends list
I have finally figured out what is going wrong with the focus. I read the 400 thread and el-cheapo lens thread again. dave told me that once the coin is in focus . to click zoom I would and you will see the focus needs a little tikking. every time I would do this I would them close the zoom window lock the tripod or bellows. this is where I was creating my problem. I remember bill telling rmcrmc to lock the camera mount and adjust the coin. dave has said he even try's to make no movement when he clicks the mouse. so I changed the way I would take the photos that is when I seen my problem I left the zoom window open even trying to lock the bellow movement changes the focus. so all I need to do is make a adjustment plate for the coin and the rest should be easier. I will do this and post some photos later thank you all
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