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Is Storing Guns With Coins In A Gun Safe, Safe For The Coin?

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 Posted 03/03/2015  9:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AgCoinAu to your friends list
Hand guns or long guns?
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 Posted 03/03/2015  9:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bertensgrad to your friends list
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 Posted 03/03/2015  10:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jake the Dog to your friends list
I don't think it would be a huge issue. If you have a muzzle loader then I would say no because the powder from those can contain sulfur. Most modern cartridges use smokeless powder which doesn't have sulfur in it (although unless you reload cartridges yourself you never know if there are additives to the powder).

If you have very expensive/rare coins I might not consider it to be safe. Otherwise I think you would be fine. Include a desiccant to control moisture and they do have anti-tarnish strips which you can place in a safe (they absorb free sulfur), just make sure you periodically check on them.

I've had junk silver and some bars in a gun safe for 3.5 years now and no signs of any issues. Also copper seems to be sensitive to chemicals, moisture etc so you might consider at least keeping copper out or in an air tote container.
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Yeah the last time they were shot was in the late 90's now that I think about it. They just aren't practical since they all are single action. Most of my coins are less than $30 apiece and are silver
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 Posted 03/03/2015  10:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AgCoinAu to your friends list
If it was hand guns... I would've said just put them in a plastic baggie...

I know you have said they haven't been shot in nearly 20 yrs.. but guns should be cleaned and maintained. Just wondering if there's any chance that the oil may get on the coins by a way of cross contamination... ie: oil from the gun gets onto your hands... your hands then onto the coin...

Other than that.. I really don't know if the GSR or powder or any chemical in guns would be harmful.. but when it comes to coins I would be doing my best to prevent contaminants if you want to maintain their integrity.... but that's just my Two Cents
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 Posted 03/03/2015  11:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
Use a gun safe for guns.
OK to use a separate gun safe for coins.
Probably best to have the gun safe and the coin safe in different parts of the house.
Store the keys separately elsewhere.

Best not to store ammo in with the coins. The residual nitrogen compounds in the ammo and the guns (propellants, combustion products and cleaning oils) can be slightly deleterious to the coins also stored with them, especially in a humid climate.
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 Posted 03/04/2015  01:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CPC24 to your friends list
I'd be more worried about the guns. If they haven't been used in that long, have they been maintained? I've seen rifles rust in less than a week if they're not properly cleaned and lubricated.
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No worries about the guns I take them to my dad's house and he helps me clean them. My wife can't handle the smell so I do it there about every year when I happen to be clean the other ones. Once they no longer smell I take them back to my place though lately I just kept them in his gun safe.
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Ah, the ol' "smell test".

I'd be careful with that, but I don't think I've ever heard a story where someone's ammo in their gun/coin safe destroyed or impaired a valuable collection. I'd probably worry about humidity levels and other materials that might offgas before bullets and cleaning oil vapors.

Oh, and you probably already know this but clean your guns properly; don't douse them in oil. A thorough cleaning after use and a very light coating or oil to prevent oxidation is all that's necessary. Guns react to the same conditions that other metals do...
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 Posted 03/04/2015  10:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add allranger to your friends list
There was an old post on the forum that I can't find where a man had slabbed gold coins in his gun safe. The slabs started to "melt" away. Turns out he also had some of his gun cleaning solvents in the safe which were causing the problems.
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Certainly no need to store cleaning chemicals in the safe.
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May not be any problem if the guns were cleaned well and oiled well. Usually if done correctly should be no traces of cleaning fluids on or in the guns. The oils used for guns too is rather safe since doesn't evaporate and giving off gasses.
However, remember that most, not all, gun powders contain Sulfur and Sulfur is a real killer for coins. Although most think they have cleaned off all the possible gun powder, traces can accumulate in places most people just don't think of. For that reason it is best to not store coins and guns in the same place.
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 Posted 03/08/2015  9:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list
I keep my coins in with guns in a safe, but I also use tupperware and pelican cases with desiccant packs along with the coins.
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 Posted 03/24/2015  12:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ed52151 to your friends list
I've been storing my handguns alongside my gold and silver for years with no problems whatsoever. They seem like they were made to be in there together. No ammo or cleaning equipment. Just "Guns & Gold."
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I for one question the need to have a gun at all? That said a good gun safe is certainly ok to store coins especially if both fire rated and burglar proof.
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