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1944 Half Dollar Upgrade

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 Posted 03/10/2015  01:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nickel Guy to your friends list

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What are your opinions on the grade?


First off....what a phenomenal upgrade!

I would say somewhere around MS-64.
In my book, the rim nicks would stop it from going any farther than that. However, I don't feel they are bad enough for a TPG to give it a details grade.
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 Posted 03/10/2015  02:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dith Pran to your friends list
Awesome coin!
Not sure about the grade, but your photos are great. I love the reverse. Nicely done
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 Posted 03/10/2015  02:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimbucks to your friends list
Might make a nice jewelry piece, the obverse scratches, polishing, and rim hits make it pretty much uncollectable.
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03/10/2015 02:57 am
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 Posted 03/10/2015  09:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add valleyco to your friends list
Hey, ease up, Jimbucks. That coin is way nicer than average, and the strike is great. When you can see the hand of Liberty and all the eagle feathers, you have a nice strike. I can't tell for sure from the photos whether the surfaces are original, but I sure can't say they are not. I'm glad for One50 that he got an upgrade and I'm glad he shared it with us. The concept of "collectability" is a personal one. Remember the old aphorism "One man's trash is another man's treasure". There is no right or wrong way to collect coins. If you are enjoying it, you are doing it the right way.
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 Posted 03/10/2015  09:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list
If the reverse didn't have those 2 rim dents I would give just the rev. MS-68+ , YES THAT NICE ! however the obverse
has too many hits on her skirt and large scratch on right side of skirt. NET MS-63
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 Posted 03/10/2015  09:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add One50 to your friends list
The rim hits are for sure a distraction.
I would have to disagree with jimbucks about the polish.
I don't see it anywhere, the vertical area by the "T" on the Obv. are actually flowlines (if thats the correct term).
When in hand it almost looks like the Rev. hit really hard and made that area.

This was taken on my cell phone. Not the best tool for color, but I'm working on it.

If there is another reason for you think it was polished, please let me know so I can check it out and learn.

Thanks
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 Posted 03/10/2015  10:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SHAFTA9a to your friends list
I didn't even look at the small rim dents because the coin is so great looking I couldn't stop looking at it...
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 Posted 03/10/2015  10:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list
Great strike but I think it would only grade MS-63 because of the hits.
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 Posted 03/10/2015  11:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Celticsoul to your friends list
Great strike but she's pretty beat up to grade anything higher than MS-60 in my book.
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 Posted 03/10/2015  1:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add One50 to your friends list
One thing I love to do when I can is look at coins from TPGs.
When I purchased this coin, the dealer had a box of slabbed Morgans, all were MS 62-64.
I looked at them to just learn grading and what not.
The Morgans were BEAT compared to this coin.
I know it's not apples to apples but what am I missing?
Coin grading seems easy enough, but it always amazes me how far off I am.
So I guess its not that easy.

Thanks for the comments and feedback.
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 Posted 03/10/2015  2:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Celticsoul to your friends list
In my opinion (and many others) the TPGs are very inconsistent with their grading. Some folks new to collecting would say "wow what a great coin it grades xxx" and not take problems like rim bumps, scratches or weak strikes into consideration. Any mint state coin with problems technically should not grade any higher than MS-60. This is a guideline that I have used in my over 30 years of collecting. Just because the TPGs grade a coin it does not mean that that grade is written in stone. The fact that some dealers will send coins back to the TPGs again and again hoping for a higher grade speaks for itself.
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 Posted 03/10/2015  3:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SHAFTA9a to your friends list
It's all subjective... one person will look at a coin and grade it MS-60 another will look at the same coin and grade it MS-64..it's all what you see.

First off.. you have to have the coin in hand to really be able to tell, looking at a computer screen isn't going to tell you much especially, if the photos are not the best, It's all guess work...

Your coin is a good example- some are saying MS-60... to me the coin looks MS-63, great strike, great looking fields, the only thing which to me is not that bad is the 2 rim dents that you only see on the reverse.
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03/10/2015 3:39 pm
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 Posted 03/10/2015  8:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinCollector2012 to your friends list
MS-63+
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 Posted 03/12/2015  11:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaobler to your friends list
Can't tell about surface originality from these photos. You need to tilt the coin under a point-source light (not a fluorescent) and observe the luster characteristics. If the coin shows a full "cartwheel" pattern luster that doesn't fade or distort over parts of the fields it is probably an original uncirculated piece.

Keep in mind that this is a common date and easily found in problem-free MS-63 and up. If your goal was to upgrade to a BU piece there is really no reason to "settle" for one with such obvious rim nicks. You should enjoy the coin regardless; it has a lot of appeal.
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 Posted 03/12/2015  10:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add One50 to your friends list
Thank you everyone for the comments.
Your input is always welcomed and appreciated.

This coin has full luster and FYI, the rim hits are a bummer, but the angle of the photo makes them larger than they appear.

My goal for this WWII set is for raw coins with great eye appeal.
The Rev. on this in hand...the eagle just pops out. Much needed upgrade from my low AU that was in it's place.

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