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I agree with SsuperDdave. In the ICG holders, they are still safer from environment, scratches, etc. You can always reholder in PCGS, but you can never put them back in the original ICG's. I know PCGS is worth more now, but I think you'd be better off keeping it as original as possible. I think in the long term, they will be more appreciated.
I guess it just depends on your collecting style.
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I wouldn't buy one, personally. Not only is demand low, but Goodacre still has nearly *half* of the total mintage. She is not immortal, and those coins will end up in an estate whose owners may or may not see the point in keeping coins 2-2003 and decide to liquidate. That will not be a happy day for anyone who has already invested in these coins.
It's an interesting variety to be sure, and very clever of Ms. Goodacre to request her compensation in these coins--she certainly made much more than her $5k award!
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Finn23, that's a great point. Currently the market for these in IGC holders is around $500 - $600.
If the Market were to be flooded by "half" the population, that could lower things a bit.
That's a good angle.
The smart seller would simply add to the market slowly as not to arouse awareness.
She is immortal and so are the coins...They could end up as a pile of ash or on the bottom of a lake, my favorite...stolen and removed from the slabs and put in circulation.
But in the end, 5k mintage and unique...I think it has promise.
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Bumping this - because I lucked into one of the 2K reholdered by PCGS with the insert signed by Director Deihl yesterday at a show. So I was wondering if the prices have held up - I see sales on ebay of 366-400$ ?!? -----Burton 50+ year / Life / Emeritus ANA member (joined 12/1/1973) Life member: Numismatics International, CONECA Member: TNA, FtWCC, NETCC, EveryCountry (online) coin club Owned by three cats and a wife of 40+ years (joined 1983) Author: 3rd Edition of the Sample Slabs book, https://www.sampleslabs.info/ |
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That sounds about right to me. Coins like these are fickle beasts--they are rare, but there are about as many interested collectors as there are pieces on the market. $300 sounds like a fair minimum, up to maybe $500. As stated before, Goodacre's personal stash will eventually hit the market, and prices will crash. It's a game of chicken with supply and demand.
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At least part of her stash has hit the market, this is one of them. The small dollar article was updated to indicate that her 2200 coins were purchased and reslabbed in these PCGS holders with director Diehl's signature.
-----Burton 50+ year / Life / Emeritus ANA member (joined 12/1/1973) Life member: Numismatics International, CONECA Member: TNA, FtWCC, NETCC, EveryCountry (online) coin club Owned by three cats and a wife of 40+ years (joined 1983) Author: 3rd Edition of the Sample Slabs book, https://www.sampleslabs.info/ |
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Quote:The ICG holder will hurt it. Goodacre was offered the chance originally to holder them with PCGS, but hesitated to do so. Instead, she got a lesser deal with ICG and the coins have suffered in the marketplace because of that. ICG doesn't carry much "currency" as a TPG. Anyone who would not buy one of these because of the IGC holder is either ignorant of the coin and/or it's history. IGC didn't grade the coins. They simply authenticated them. They received them originally, so they're the best source for this particular coin as far as I'm concerned. Quote:
5,000 mostly gem and superb gems seems like a paltry sum- but it's quite a handful. More than the likely number of collectors actively pursuing certified sets (check PCGS and NGC Registries). Most collectors (like me) don't pursue certified sets, but still need this coin for their collection. Compare the mintage of these versus the recent Presidential reverse proofs. These are also distinctly minted coins with much lower mintages. I think the primary reason they're not valued as much as you'd think they would be is they're just relatively unknown and are not promoted. They're left out of some value guides. They just get overlooked by people putting together "complete" collections. If you think the 2000-D Sacagawea dollar from the Millennium Set is part of the series, then this 2000-P has to be as well because they were minted in the same manner. Quote:
If you are into the coin for its fun and history, you'll do ok. Don't expect crazy profits from modern coin investments. Fully agree! |
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Well, it's been about a year since I started looking. I finally have one.  I picked this up on epay for what I feel was a real reasonable price. The scratches are on the holder, not the coin. The foggy looking areas are background through the holder. Very nice coin. Great seller. The only real detraction on the coin is the eagle chest has a depression on it. I'm super happy and love it, enjoying every second of it. I love telling people the history of the coin and the holder. NOW, here's a cool thing to look at. PCGS has graded 2662 coins to date. NGC has graded 221 to date. That means that 2883 of these coins are no longer in the original ICG holder. I say...keep cracking them out of the holder guys...it only makes mine that much cooler :) Thanks Dan   |
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Good for you - congrats!
The article says that a lot of them were cracked out of the ICG holders When Ms. Goodacre sold the lot to somebody. So you have to start from the assumption that 2220 or 2500 were reholdered to begin with.
-----Burton 50+ year / Life / Emeritus ANA member (joined 12/1/1973) Life member: Numismatics International, CONECA Member: TNA, FtWCC, NETCC, EveryCountry (online) coin club Owned by three cats and a wife of 40+ years (joined 1983) Author: 3rd Edition of the Sample Slabs book, https://www.sampleslabs.info/ |
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Good point. It also might have to do with NGC saying that they won't accept slabbed coins for transfer to their slabs except for PCGS.
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Every day I learn of a new thing that I have to have. Back to work...
Great pickup. Congrats on finding the one you wanted.
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It's interesting to note that the mintage of the Goodacre Sacagawea's is lower than the Cheerios Sacagawea's. You'd think that would make the Goodacre the key to the series. However, only a few hundred of the Cheerios dollars are actually accounted for. The rest were either spent and are now sitting in bank vaults somewhere or they are stuck in drawers in people's houses (when found they're likely to get cut out of the holder and spent). So, this is a definite less on the difference between mintage and available population. Another thing to consider is that the Goodacre's are well preserved. If/when more Cheerios dollars are found, they are likely to be lower grades.
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Quote:Well, it's been about a year since I started looking. I finally have one. I picked this up on epay for what I feel was a real reasonable price. Very nice!  |
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Very cool congrats one of my favorite moderns but no I do not own one yet...yet lol
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