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Moderator
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Quote: I want to make sure that I have this straight. The cents in the mint sets are bronze and the cents actually minted for circulation are zinc? Correct. 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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It's a case of low mintage -> hoarding -> artificial rarity -> inflated prices -> they will never circulate freely. Despite a total mintage of over 2 billion, the public announcement that 2009 production figures would be low, plus the novelty of the first new design since 1959 led to huge demand for these coins. Since they arrived at their various channels by the box (which could be snatched up for a mere $25 each) very few ever made it to circulation. The heyday was mid-2009 when ebay was flooded with boxes going for $350+ each, often with dozens of bids. Most people who own boxes refuse to acknowledge that they are no longer worth $350, let alone $30-50 which is closer to the fair market price. And yes, the coins (especially LP-2) are a hotbed for doubled dies. Coppercoins.com lists over 100 for that year, 80+ of which are LP2. As for their rarity in circulation, I'll admit that I've done my part in contributing to the problem:  
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Man wish I had been collecting in 2009 so I could have snagged up a few boxes :)
Nice little collection Finn!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I went through my sets as I'm selling a lot of my US Mint stuff at the moment (click the link just above my post if you're interest - no reserve auctions) and noticed that the Proof Bicentennial Pennies have toned quite a bit.
Does anyone know why that is? Did they have a different composition, or were they minted differently. No other penny has toned that bad/well, incl. those minted in 1999 (earliest I have).
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Was the set opened in the past? They did make bronze proofs in 2009, but 6 years is an awfully short time for toning to appear.
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Pillar of the Community
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^ No, the sets were kept unopened. Esp. the one that came in the annual proof set is very dark now: 
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Pillar of the Community
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Mine have also toned; not to the extent that it sounds like yours have, but noticeably so. None of my other proof or uncirculated sets have toned going back to 1999. I think the is something in the finishing process at the mint - this is not the first I have heard of this on the 2009 cents.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Quote: I want to make sure that I have this straight. The cents in the mint sets are bronze and the cents actually minted for circulation are zinc? Correct, and the cents in the proof set are also bronze. The tarnishing problem was noted by the mint back in 2009. if I remember correctly the sets came out later than normal that year because they were having a problem with the cents discoloring. (It had been 27 years since the mint had made brass proof cents and 47 years since they made bronze proof cents. Knowledge had been lost over the years and many of the chemicals used for the cleaning/burnishing treatments for the planchets back then were no longer available.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I like the 2009 mint and proof sets. And the Lincoln cents are a big part of why I like them.
I do have some 2009 BU rolls, I would have to look, but I think I do not have many LP3 and LP4
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Valued Member
United States
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All the mint set pennies have toned to a certain extent. I continue to pick this set up when deals are available.I probably have 25 sets of the mint set pennies alone. These will be worth a nice return for future generations. That is you don't mind investing for relatives 100+yrs from now.
I am, even though I will never see a return, I hope I can help future generations. I so wish my family would have thought the way I do.
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Moderator
 United States
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The cents in my Lincoln Coins and Chronicles set have very slight rim toning. It is not unattractive.
However, the cents in my 2009 Proof sets have not toned. If they have it is perfectly even since they still look the same to me.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I just checked my proof and mint sets. The Lincolns in both mint sets show no toning. Some of the Lincolns in both clad proof sets and in one of two silver proof sets show toning. Interestingly, the mint set came with a note indicating that the Lincolns would tone faster than normal. BTW, I ordered all these sets in January 2010.
Once again just to make sure I have it straight. There are actually 17 different Lincolns for 2009?
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Moderator
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Twenty. 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote: Twenty. Four P Zincolns Four D Zincolns Four P Bronze Four D Bronze Four S Proofs Miss any ?
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Moderator
 United States
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Correct! To expand... 2009-P zinc Lincoln Birth Year cent 2009-P copper Lincoln Birth Year cent 2009-D zinc Lincoln Birth Year cent 2009-D copper Lincoln Birth Year cent 2009-S copper proof Birth Year cent 2009-P zinc Lincoln Formative Years cent 2009-P copper Lincoln Formative Years cent 2009-D zinc Lincoln Formative Years cent 2009-D copper Lincoln Formative Years cent 2009-S copper proof Formative Years cent 2009-P zinc Lincoln Professional Life cent 2009-P copper Lincoln Professional Life cent 2009-D zinc Lincoln Professional Life cent 2009-D copper Lincoln Professional Life cent 2009-S proof Professional Life cent 2009-P zinc Lincoln Presidency cent 2009-P copper Lincoln Presidency cent 2009-D zinc Lincoln Presidency cent 2009-D copper Lincoln Presidency cent 2009-S copper proof Presidency cent
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