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1857 Flying Eagle Grading Help

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 Posted 03/29/2015  10:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add denco7 to your friends list
If it is real, it is the nicest '57 flying eagle that I have ever seen in all my years of collecting.
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 Posted 03/30/2015  07:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
Compare the feather texture of both coins.
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 Posted 03/30/2015  09:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinCollector2012 to your friends list
I will say it's fake. The details are too strong and the color is off.
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 Posted 03/30/2015  10:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list
Another product of China.
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 Posted 03/30/2015  11:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
The colors are plainly so juiced in the image that there's no way to tell what this coin really looks like.
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 Posted 03/30/2015  1:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list
Still not convinced it's a fake, though I'm leaning that way, it does however appear to be heavily polished and whizzed. The feather textures are the problem I see right off the bat. The lettering is pretty good, and the wreath is very well done, if faked.
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 Posted 03/30/2015  2:08 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list
There are certain diagnostics of the OP's coin that scream fake.
Position of bow reverse, tail feathers, reverse lettering.
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 Posted 03/30/2015  3:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SHAFTA9a to your friends list
Well.. if it's a fake, it's a pretty good one.

I don't like the artificially color that has been done to it so, I wouldn't even think about this coin, I would say it has been colored to cover up the devices.
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 Posted 03/30/2015  4:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add beaglebailey to your friends list
I don't see anything that screams fake. The coin has almost proof like surfaces, but I don't know if is a proof. I know that Snow mentions that the 1857 type of 1856 in early die states have proof like surfaces characterized by sharp strikes and can be confused with proofs. That being said I agree that the color looks artificial and I would probably stay away form this coin.
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 Posted 03/30/2015  5:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list
The surface is a problem, but the bigger issue is with the details of the eagle.
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 Posted 03/30/2015  5:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mikey07nj to your friends list
The seller states he bought it yesterday at an auction and is a professional and knows it's real. The only pictures I find that match that reverse are proof pics. He says the weight is dead on. Interesting to see what happens here.
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 Posted 03/30/2015  8:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
I had to use Proof strikes to consider this coin; the strike is too hard for all but the very strongest Business Strikes. By that sort of standard - and this would apply to Business Strikes as well - the denticles don't work and there simply isn't enough detail. More device details should show if it's a real coin this well struck.

But again, I don't believe those images for a microsecond. This one's in the air.
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 Posted 03/30/2015  9:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ploopy to your friends list
If it's a fake it's a good one.
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 Posted 03/30/2015  10:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add D0ubl3Eagle to your friends list
I'm going to go against the trend. I am leaning towards genuine but it has been heavily polished. I don't think the color, possibly appearing after polishing, would be considered market acceptable.
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 Posted 03/30/2015  11:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OLCoins to your friends list
I don't know this series enough to say high quality fake vs real but I could see a high grade polished and possibly altered color fec looking like this.
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