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Spain
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 Posted 03/31/2015  3:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Athalbert to your friends list
Captainyesterday, you are absolutely right, they tried to do it but thousands and thousands of coins remained hidden or buried precisely because their owners didnīt wanted to gave them...
Why do you think that we can collect ancient cois today?
In ancient times there were no banks, so you buried your money in a place where only you knew...
...but you are not inmortal, you can suffer a heart attack, be killed by robbers, die by eating food in bad conditions, cholera, alzheimer, pestilence, an unexpected attack if you live near the frontier or you are a soldier...
Life was very, very, very hard then...
and, if you die...
Who knows where is the money?
NOBODY.
nobody till when two thousands years later one lucky G.I. Joe looking for german mines with his metal detector finds your money...
Another question...
How did the USA government to withdrawn all silver quarters in 1969?
it was the same problem, how to spoil to your citoyens, but today is easier...
...all your money is in a bank!
Edited by Athalbert
03/31/2015 3:21 pm
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United States
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 Posted 03/31/2015  6:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrsmat71 to your friends list
welcome k79, great finds...dang. that nero is awesome. I think the wight is right on as well....so far so good.
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United States
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 Posted 03/31/2015  7:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kca79 to your friends list
As soon as I can get a little more info on the first one I plan on selling them. I'm assuming most of you use ebay?
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Australia
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 Posted 03/31/2015  11:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
The assarion of Domitian:

obv.
Laureate head facing right.

legend: ( with a little help from Sear)
"IMP.CAES.DOMIT.AVG.GERM.P.M.TR.P.V111 CENS.PER.P"
= "Imperator Caesar Domitianus Augustus Germanicus Pontifex Maximus (high priest) Tribunate Potestate (leader of the army) Censor Perpetual Pater Patrie, (father of the country)"


rev.:
Domitian standing left, sacfificing over altar, victimarius on left, with goat and lamb; harpist behind, in hexastyle temple.
legend:
"COS.X1111 - LVD.SAEC.FEC", "S.C." in exergue (under the line in the segment below)
Consul, renewed annually, for the 14th time
(I have no idea of the translation 'LVD SAEC FEC')
Senatus Consulto (issued under the authority of the Roman Senate).

This coin can be dated:
Sear reveals that 'TR P V111 COS X111' to be the year AD89.

Similar to RIC 381, which is a dupondius.
Edited by sel_69l
04/01/2015 02:53 am
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 Posted 04/01/2015  02:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Athalbert to your friends list
Perpetuus
Edited by Athalbert
04/01/2015 02:31 am
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 Posted 04/01/2015  08:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Athalbert to your friends list
TR P means "Tribunitia Potestate" or in modern english "Tribunitian Power"...
But not a "tribuni militum" (who is the leader of the army)...
Is "Tribunis Plebis" who has the very useful power of "vetum" on all the rules, laws and norms of the Roman Senate...
Edited by Athalbert
04/01/2015 08:13 am
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 Posted 04/01/2015  10:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add antwerpen2306 to your friends list
lud saec fec : ludi saeculares fecit : he organised secular games . the coin has to be dated 88/89 AD , the year 88 was the 800th anniversary of the foundation of Rome .Therefore the emperor had to organise great celebrations. albert
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 Posted 04/01/2015  1:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add antwerpen2306 to your friends list
sorry , it is ludos saeculares fecit , I forgot the declension (or how do you call it ?). albert
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 Posted 04/01/2015  1:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Athalbert to your friends list
Declination?
First case
Rosa / Rosae
Rosa / Rosae
Rosam / Rosas
Rosae / Rosarum
Rosae / Rosis
Rosa / Rosis
Edited by Athalbert
04/01/2015 1:53 pm
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 Posted 04/02/2015  10:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add antwerpen2306 to your friends list
no , the second avus
avus / avi
ave / avi
avi / avorum
avo / avis
avum / avos
ave / avis . albert
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 Posted 04/02/2015  6:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Athalbert to your friends list
jejeje...
I failed several times my "Latin" exams...
My father paid a latin teacher to teach me that summer, but I failed again...
I finally passed my exams with a lot of troubles...
When few months later I started to collect roman coins my father wanted to kill me!
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 Posted 04/03/2015  10:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add antwerpen2306 to your friends list
everything is changing in the world , even your interest , at , at the end , Latin is not so difficult as you think .I saw I ve made an error in the last line : it is avo / avis and not ave / avis .
ave Athelbert
albert.
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 Posted 04/03/2015  4:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kca79 to your friends list
Thanks for all the background and info. If any of you are looking to buy, I'm going to be selling these for around $350-$400 for the pair.
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 Posted 04/03/2015  6:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
Found out a bit more about a 'Tribune'.
Little to do with the Roman Army.
Instead,
he had the power to propose legislation or the veto legislation.

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 Posted 04/05/2015  10:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add antwerpen2306 to your friends list
tribunicia potestas in this case is the power hold by a tribunus plebis : a representative of the people . The institut op trib.pl. was created in the beginning of the Roman republic , but became important with the 2 brothers Gracchi ,Tiberius and Caius Gracchus.Born in a very aristocratic family , the defended the people (plebs).Both were murdered in the second half of the first century.There is an evolution in the function and the power of the trib. pot , with later give the right of a veto against the consuls,but not against the censor or the dictator.Because the trib.pot. represented thepower of the people , all the emperors had the title with tribunician power ,as one of the foundations of their power , together with Pontifex Maximus and the imperium maius (Imperator),as we can see on the coins.albert
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