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Pillar of the Community
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Well, I don't want to make light of detecting this...I guess the big photo made it so.
Thanks for the advice...I've might have to find an auction.
Edited by KurtS
12/01/2007 11:11 pm
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United States
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That is a nice coin Prethen. I liked it enough to try to buy it from Nelrak. I was a little late and didn't get the coin, but the knowledge you provided on the coins history made it worth it. Thanks for the great information on the history of the coin. Nelrak does have some awesome coins.
I've bought some and may buy a few more!
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Valued Member
United States
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That's a fascinating coin. Are these counterfeits more common in a particular date?
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Great stuff, Prethen. I came into this thread thumbing shells into my shotgun, ready to pull the trigger on you.  Just for my own learning, I note on this example that the circles in the "C" are out-of-round, and the outlying stars are of irregular construction - one spine is noticeably thinner than the others. Furthermore, the placement of "OF" is way off relative to the other letters. Are these also indications that it's a counterfeit, or might these features be found on a real coin? I only own one, and I don't know that much about them. |
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United States
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Good pick ups Dave and kind of the same questions I was going to ask. Can you post another picture of a real example in the approximate grade as this one Prethen? I see what you're talking about with "of" and it may seem even further down due to the fact that they are trying to squeeze "states" in above the star so it has pushed the last "s" all the way to the rim...
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Are you serious Prethen, you really want me to have the real 1860 you pictured? This is such a great forum with even better members.   Oh, almost forgot, thanks for the pictures.  |
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Here's a couple of shots of a genuine 1861. (Not bragging about the photos. I need to reshoot this coin some day. These were among the first photos I tried with my S3 IS.)   |
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Lots of great info here..  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The kicker is the dealer I got it from thought it was real too! I had never seen one until the day I bought and slipped it into my type set I probably would have gone on thinking it was real.
It took a trained eye to pick it out as a 150 year old fake!
Nice Job, Prethen, I am glad you got to add it to your collection!
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Apologizes for not knowing much about US numismatics and it's history but if it is a contemporary counterfeit, was it actually profitable to counterfeit such cents back in those days? I mean, what could 3 cents buy at that time?
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Pillar of the Community
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Very neat contemporary counterfeits.
Thanks for sharing.
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Bedrock of the Community
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3 cents would have had about the same purchasing power that $1.50 to $2 hs today. Not a lot but not insignificant either. And it would have the advantage of being a small enough amount that it wouldnot undergo excessive scrutiny. SO the chances of passing it undetected were very high. It's kind of along the idea of counterfeiting a $5 or $10 instead of a $100. The $100 is ging to be loked at more closely, and have the detection pen used on it. The $5 or $10 is just popped into the drawer.
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Valued Member
United States
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3c back then was about $2 in todays money.... cant blame dealers for not knowing most rarely handly that many 3c pieces.... would guess that most only have a couple at any given time....
Scarsdale Coin is the largest dealer of them in the US
and also wrote the latest article of them for GreySheet this past year!
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Pillar of the Community
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Coinfest:
Jon, at Scardale coin, is a very nice guy and a good dealer.
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