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Disappointing Quality Of 2015 Uncirculated Sets

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 Posted 05/19/2015  11:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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Not to mention that there are 4 Kennedy coins in this set too. The (2) half dollars and the (2) $1 presidential coins.
I cannot believe that never occurred to me. I guess I was just too excited to see the 2015 Eisenhower dollars.
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What a bunch of cry babies. The uncirculated coins, even those for mint sets, were never produced at the high standard of the proofs yet you all are micro examining them to the nth degree and whining about the poor quality. Well get over it. You are never going to get any better than what you got. You could send them back for replacements but all you will get is different sets of the same quality.
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 Posted 05/19/2015  3:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tkbslc to your friends list
Think about it. If coins in mint sets were typically perfect, why would MS-69 be such a rare grade?
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 Posted 05/19/2015  4:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bret to your friends list
Gyrene7483, no need to call names. Given what the mint charges for mint sets (their actual profit is what they charge minus the cost to manufacture and has nothing to do with the face value of the coins), they should do a significantly better job of handling the coins to prevent contact marks. The fact is they would have to significantly improve if they were in a competitive situation, so I just don't accept the monopolistic take it or leave it attitude.
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 Posted 05/19/2015  5:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add PennyPiggy to your friends list
Send all the sets back and repeat until you're happy with the sets but I'm sure those unwanted sets will eventually find happy homes.
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 Posted 05/19/2015  7:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wmc1982 to your friends list
I've never bought or looked at any set (or ordered anything directly from the US Mint)

(nvm, I found the link, ty) I was looking at rolls of ATB Proof .900 quarters which I was going to get for the silver plus proof/collectible value; cheaper than 64's for proofs. I just worry that a person that doesn't have much knowledge would never believe they were .900 since most people go with the 64 and prior.

Idk, I've never collected sets by year but I wouldn't mind sparking my interest so I'm not just stacking silver every month :P

Do they end up having high re-sale value or is it more of a thing to get every year for the fun of it? I thought buying from the US Mint directly you would end up paying double for most things.

Pardon my "noob" questions; I'm trying to find more than just silver to collect and seeing what's out there. I do want to collect mainly older coins for myself though, but I'm wondering what I could buy that would gain the most re-sale value right now.


Edit: looks like those 2015 mint sets are on ebay for around $33 total, and that's for 2 sets. Hmm the link I have on the US Mint site is the same price for 1 set of proofs. Lol I'm confused. I'll spend some time tonight looking what's out there, I have way too many questions!
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 Posted 05/19/2015  7:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ChildOfTheWheat to your friends list
Havent goten a set yet... I'm guna get one (or a proof set) when I go to the denver mint, though.
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What a bunch of cry babies. The uncirculated coins, even those for mint sets, were never produced at the high standard of the proofs yet you all are micro examining them to the nth degree and whining about the poor quality. Well get over it. You are never going to get any better than what you got. You could send them back for replacements but all you will get is different sets of the same quality.


You sound like you fit your name. Must be a DI.
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Edit: looks like those 2015 mint sets are on ebay for around $33 total, and that's for 2 sets. Hmm the link I have on the US Mint site is the same price for 1 set of proofs. Lol I'm confused. I'll spend some time tonight looking what's out there, I have way too many questions!


Mint sets = clad

The clad proof set is $32.95 from the Mint

If you want a silver proof set it will cost $53.95 + shipping. Even then, there are only 7 coins that are actually silver.

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Given what the mint charges for mint sets (their actual profit is what they charge minus the cost to manufacture and has nothing to do with the face value of the coins), they should do a significantly better job of handling the coins to prevent contact marks. The fact is they would have to significantly improve if they were in a competitive situation, so I just don't accept the monopolistic take it or leave it attitude.
Well then do not order any uncirculated sets because the Mint does have a monopoly on the manufacture of then whether you accept that fact or not.

The Mint will not change how they have handled uncirculated coins for decades just because the new age collectors are so selfish in thinking they deserve better. Well, they don't deserve any better than the collectors of the 1950's through the 90's. The major difference of years past and now is attitude. In the past workers took pride in doing their job and there was a certain amount of care in handling the coins, now it's just a job and as long as it gets done that's all they care about.
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Well then do not order any uncirculated sets because the Mint does have a monopoly on the manufacture of then whether you accept that fact or not.

Given that the coins would be bagged and endure even more handling, the quality of outside packaging would almost certainly be less. That is unless they were being very selective.


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The Mint will not change how they have handled uncirculated coins for decades just because the new age collectors are so selfish in thinking they deserve better. Well, they don't deserve any better than the collectors of the 1950's through the 90's.

Wow. So now it's selfish to expect an improvement in quality? You may not be aware, but overall manufacturing quality standards have improved drastically since the 1950's and even the 1990's. Should we be stuck driving cars with 1950's reliability because we don't deserve any better than those who purchased cars back then? On a real dollar basis, material handling equipment and air cleaning equipment costs significantly less than it did back then. Installation of this new equipment would likely save the mint money given that the number one reason for quality returns is likely particles on coins or inside the packaging.


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The major difference of years past and now is attitude. In the past workers took pride in doing their job and there was a certain amount of care in handling the coins, now it's just a job and as long as it gets done that's all they care about.

May be true, but with modern manufacturing controls, a higher level of quality is obtainable now. The best attitude in the world won't keep dust contamination out of a room. Positive pressure and filtration will virtually eliminate it.
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 Posted 05/20/2015  10:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list
These complaints are nothing new.

I think if you compare a sample of 2015 mint sets with a sample from 1985 you will find that overall quality has improved.


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What everyone is not taking into consideration with all of the advancements in technology and what is available to improve current processes you are dealing with a government entity. Enough said about that.
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What everyone is not taking into consideration with all of the advancements in technology and what is available to improve current processes you are dealing with a government entity. Enough said about that.


Careful now.
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You are dealing with part of a government entity. DD.
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You are dealing with part of a government entity.
I may still be a Marine and always will be but, I am not part of any government entity as an active member. I have been a civilian since February 28, 1983.
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