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1883-CC Morgan You Vs. PCI Photo Grade Slab

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 Posted 05/11/2015  4:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ploopy to your friends list
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 Posted 05/11/2015  5:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
I need different pictures to be sure. See the two different brightnesses of the marks on the cheek? If this coin has any frost, the darker marks may not be worth attention from a grader. Or they may, but either way they're not as damaging in the real world as the brighter gouges. Still not reaching 63 for what I see despite the gorgeous reverse.
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 Posted 05/11/2015  5:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list
I'd say PCI graded it 61 and that's about what it would grade today.

Value doesn't change much in the 60 to 63 grades anyway. I'd say it's worth about 150$.
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 Posted 05/11/2015  5:41 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list
That cheek really hurts this coin. The back is incredible.

I can't go higher than MS62 unfortunately.
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 Posted 05/11/2015  8:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Joseph7420 to your friends list
MS-62.
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 Posted 05/11/2015  9:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BStrauss3 to your friends list
I cheated and found the auction. So I'm not bidding...

Yes the old holders are collectible, but it's a small # of collectors and once you have examples of all 4 PCI varieties, you're done. Somebody was selling off a pile of them about 18 months ago on the PNW circuit - the remnants moved between various dealers a couple times before ending up with a friend of mine who moved the last 8 via ebay.
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 Posted 05/12/2015  03:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list
I'd say MS-63 also!
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 Posted 05/12/2015  05:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list

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Are these holders really that collectable?

Absolutely! I just got my first one last year, it is a common Peace dollar MS63 I might be exaggerating the price for the holder, being this is a CC dollar but I paid a $20.00 over the cost o a raw coin just to have the holder, I didn't have one in my collection and I think they are pretty cool.

Side Note: This month's Numismatist magazine has a feature on the collecting of sample slabs, they have two different PCI Photoslabs listed, I was not aware of. Very cool.
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 Posted 05/12/2015  11:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BStrauss3 to your friends list
David's article focuses on Sample slabs. Conder's 2003 book lists 4 varieties:

1. Grade lower right corner on photo, 3 lines of label text - 1986
2. No grade on photo, 3 lines of label text - 1986-88
3. No grade on photo, 2 lines [#1 and #3] of text - 1988-89
4. #3 w/barcode on reverse, bottom right - 1989-91
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 Posted 05/12/2015  11:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add brenpickle to your friends list
PCI called it a 62. I know the marks are in the worst possible spot on the check and neck, but I agree with SuperDave that they are hopefully grazes and I think it would go 63 in today's world. I find that TPG tend to overgrade most CC because they are CC.

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These are still sellers pics. Hope I get it in a few days and will post my pics. I should get this tomorrow and no worries people I have no plans to crack it.
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 Posted 05/12/2015  11:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cascade to your friends list
The grade is ok because the $$ fluctuation on low ms 83 cc's is negligible. That holder is where your premium lies. Don't change a thing. Nice coin & slab
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 Posted 05/12/2015  12:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GoldenIslesCoins to your friends list
Reverse is a 64 but obverse is just a 62 so I grade it a MS62. Louis
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Well I got it today, and it looks better in hand. The marks on the cheek and neck are not near as visible. They are more grazes on the surface then deep hits. I really like this one, and like it even more because the slab it is in.

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 Posted 05/13/2015  8:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
Wish I knew what it was about poor Ms. Anna's face that makes people want to beat her. The reverse is glorious.
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 Posted 05/13/2015  9:25 pm  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list
No matter how you dress it up , it is a 62. There are far too many marks in the key focal areas on the OBVERSE. It pretty much does not matter how choice the REVERSE looks. To properly grade a Morgan draw an imaginary triangle from the centre of the ear hole to the P of Pluribus and to the first star. This is the main Focal area of a Morgan dollar. Marks on the cheek and in the field in this area are grade killers no matter how nice the overall appeal of the coin. Also all Carson City and San Francisco dollars of the period 1879 to 1883 can have an almost proof like appearance, which leads a novice to tend to over grade Morgan's .
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