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1892 IHC Rainbow... Altered Or No?

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 Posted 05/20/2015  9:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Celticsoul to your friends list
Is it a proof? If it is it may be original.
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 Posted 05/20/2015  9:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Canadian-Banknotes to your friends list
I wouldn't touch it.
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 Posted 05/20/2015  10:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add edweather to your friends list
Looks real to me, but not sure about color. I agree, and wouldn't touch it with a 10' pole. Will be fun to watch though. Seller is notorious for 'shopped pics, and shill bidders.
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 Posted 05/20/2015  11:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bret to your friends list
It's not necessary and a waste of money to certify some coins. Other coins must be certified because there is doubt and they're simply worth more with the doubt removed. This coin is definitely the latter. Knowing that the seller could easily make up for the cost of certification and more, the obvious question is why not certify it. The logical answer is because it's altered. I don't know either way, which is why I'd only buy it certified.
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 Posted 05/20/2015  11:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cascade to your friends list
Nope not real. IHC's just don't naturally color like that. One very similar was discussed here about a month ago.
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 Posted 05/20/2015  11:46 pm  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list
Yeah, ten foot pole. I asked them once what they put on their IHC's to get the colors they get. I never got a response.
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 Posted 05/20/2015  11:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Celticsoul to your friends list
I've seen proofs tone like this. If it's a proof that had a specially prepared planchet I would say it's natural. I've also seen people get creative with a frying pan too.
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 Posted 05/21/2015  01:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add schnauzer to your friends list
Run away from it as fast as you can.
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 Posted 05/21/2015  05:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add peaece13 to your friends list
What edweather said....
Almost all of great southern coins sold and for sale look to good to be true.
All end at "top end" pricing. Then many show back up later down the line...
Just my general observation and opinion.
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 Posted 05/21/2015  06:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SHAFTA9a to your friends list
Looks real to me just artifically toned some how or another.
Wouldn't appeal to me in that condition.
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 Posted 05/21/2015  06:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jdiablo30 to your friends list
I read somewhere that a good general rule of thumb(for morgans at least) don't know if this can apply to other coins but I do seem to notice a tendency. If they are usually bright vibrant blues and purples. Most of the time it is A/T.
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 Posted 05/21/2015  07:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list
Yeah , I see where you could be temped with this, but trust
us it's only make believe.
if Great Southern Coins would have left well enough alone, he would have had a real nice IHC with a lot of eye appeal and strike.
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 Posted 05/21/2015  07:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rynegold to your friends list
I didn't bid on the coin. So far as I've said in the original post: copper scares me. I love it; but have little experience in grading it's color and surface. Details are easy, the rest not so much so.

Bret I think posted the truth above and the same could be said of a lot of ebay sellers:

" Knowing that the seller could easily make up for the cost of certification and more, the obvious question is why not certify it. The logical answer is because it's altered."
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 Posted 05/21/2015  10:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ExoGuy to your friends list
I remain unconvinced that this coin was artificially toned, but it could have been. I recall seeing coins with similar toning back in the seventies and eighties. They had usually spent years, housed in the early envelopes and albums, laden with sulfur content, dating back to the 1930's. Was that toning artificial or dare I say, natural? Does the term "artificial" now speak to intent? Hmmm ....

IF this coin was intentionally toned, it may have been done to mask spots or some other surface issue. I do believe I see a spot or two.

I've not as yet bought a coin from this seller. It's evident from the comments that he's not held in high regard. I tend to judge a coin not by the slab or the seller but by its own merits. With a piece like this one, perhaps a proof as claimed, I'd need to see it in hand, turn it at angles, let the light dance off its surface, etc.
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 Posted 05/21/2015  1:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gyrene7483 to your friends list
You can't go wrong with natural untoned brown.
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