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Forum Mom
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No, they are both members of this forum. The link is in response to your request for a link to ancients.
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Valued Member
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quote: Originally posted by Susanlynn9
No, they are both members of this forum. The link is in response to your request for a link to ancients.
I need to find the the art of coin making, the methods used, and what the symbols on the coin means.. I have a few links already. Just trying to collalaborate all this information
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Forum Mom
 United States
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Try a Google search for coin making methods. I did this and there are links for British coins and Chinese cash coins on the first page. I'm sure you will find many more on the additional pages.
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Valued Member
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Forum Mom
 United States
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Valued Member
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Everyone, here's my essay. I am updating it constantly.Needs to be 12 pages 2 of them can have pictures Afterwards, 10 pages total of written text Can relate to: Anything about coin art 1) The minting of coins, and how the process has changed 2) What the art (symbols, etc. like the American eagle) represent in different countries, including the US 3) How ancient coins were made, what the designs on the coins mean 4) The art of incuse design coins (i.e the Indian head) 5) How saint gaudens wanted greek coinage to be on US coins6) talk about the screwpress 7) have an introduction; conclusion 8) grading coins 9) toning Heres the essay: October, 11, 2005 The Art Of Coin Making, coin design, and what the symbols on the coins represent, and the art of coin grading. Making coins, and the study of coins (numismatics) are not an exact science. Both, however, take art. It takes engravers and designers to carve the designs on a coin mold, how they want the designs to be. These are very skilled artists. Grading a coin has many factors involved, and it is a science and art to be able to grade a coin 'correctly". Many people cannot grade coins correctly, or want a professional to grade them to reinforce their value (Coins value is based on the grade, or how good of condition the coin is in) so they send them into third party grading services. There are more than 3, but the first three are considered the best. From 1st best to 3rd best, most people regard it as follows: PCGS, NGC, and ANACS. I put correctly in parenthesis because grading is a science and an art, but it also is largely subjective opinion. However, just as there are good grading services, there are also ones that are not reliable and not reputable. Anything but the top three, as a general rule, is not reputable. Here are some factors that effect coin grading: 1) Wear vs. Incomplete striking Wear is wear of the coins condition. Through circulation, or when coins are put out to the public to spend, eventually, the coins are worn due from friction. Each time you handle a coin, plop it into a soda machine, or drop it, microscopic pieces of metal on the coin wear off. Through decades of the coins lifespan, the coin is worn down, the details on the coin get 'smeared', and this is called wear. The more coin the wear has, the lower the condition. Coins from before 1964 generally have an significant amount of wear. Coins, of course, since they are metal, last much longer than paper bills. A dollar bill will only last a few months then is no longer fit for circulation. Now coins last many decades before they are worn out completely. The more wear a coin has, the lower its grade, or condition. Lets do an example. Take a coin from 1990, generally a coin this recent will have little wear. Of course it will probably have many scratches on it, called hairlines and, scratches are called bag marks, and it is caused this because what happens to a coin when its in a mint bag, the coins get scratched up.
Edited by OldGoldKing 10/12/2005 6:38 pm
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Forum Mom
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Kevin, you are more than welcome to post it here in the forum. We have a section for member articles and, when it's complete, it can be posted there. The only thing I ask is that, as you make revisions, please continue to edit your original post as the thread will get way too long otherwise.
I look forward to reading it.
In the essay above, I'm assuming that's your introduction to your paper. If so, it is fine. Make sure that you back up all statements in that paragraph with facts. For the most part, every sentence in your introduction can be used to construct a paragraph in your paper.
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Valued Member
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quote: Originally posted by Susanlynn9
Kevin, you are more than welcome to post it here in the forum. We have a section for member articles and, when it's complete, it can be posted there. The only thing I ask is that, as you make revisions, please continue to edit your original post as the thread will get way too long otherwise.
I look forward to reading it.
In the essay above, I'm assuming that's your introduction to your paper. If so, it is fine. Make sure that you back up all statements in that paragraph with facts. For the most part, every sentence in your introduction can be used to construct a paragraph in your paper.
Susan, I dont' know where to post the article. So I will edit it here. I added more just now. Going to edit the above post of mine. Thanks
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Kevin:
I don't mean to stray too far from numismatics, but having been a teacher for 35 years I just wanted to let you know that I think your accomplishments are exceptional.
Keep up the good work.
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Valued Member
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quote: Originally posted by Gary Burke
Kevin:
I don't mean to stray too far from numismatics, but having been a teacher for 35 years I just wanted to let you know that I think your accomplishments are exceptional.
Keep up the good work.
Jee, well, thank you. I wrote an essay hoping to get into NASA as a young person for study, my grandma said it was good. Apparently it wasn't good enough. I passed the writing aims test but even though I am a very good reader I didnt pass the reading test. I just have some trouble with reading comphresenion. What did you think was exceptional? My essay? I dont' know how I got good grades but it was alot of stress. Right now I'm studying mathematics on my own so I can pass the math AIMs.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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You ask what I think is exceptional.
My Goodness! Where to start.
Here's a quote from your earlier post:
"I am 17, my name is Kevin. I grew up in California, now live in arizona. I have a profound memory, I can remember my first day of kindergarden, and my first days I collected coins. I have gotten nothing but helpful advice here, be it warm, or constructive. I'm also interested in learning multiple languages, french, spanish, japanese especially etc. I am also interested into calculus, and higher math levels. I have Calculus For Dummies, and vector calculus from another author. Before high school, my math was horrible. I've learned myself that you can do anything you set your mind to with alot of persistance and determination. In high school, I got all A's in math and science, and my science grade was for awhile at 112%, the highest grade out of all 6 periods of students. I decided I wanted to be an engineer in astrophysics, or quantum physics, or just a physcist. I have gotten alot of support from my grandpa who is an investor/engineer."
I have had some exceptional students, who were really interested in learning, but I would have to say that if you had been one of my students, you certainly would have ranked in the top 5 percent, based on the little I have learned about you.
Good luck in the future. I'm sure you will succeed at whatever you try.
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Valued Member
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quote: Originally posted by Gary Burke
You ask what I think is exceptional.
My Goodness! Where to start.
Here's a quote from your earlier post:
"I am 17, my name is Kevin. I grew up in California, now live in arizona. I have a profound memory, I can remember my first day of kindergarden, and my first days I collected coins. I have gotten nothing but helpful advice here, be it warm, or constructive. I'm also interested in learning multiple languages, french, spanish, japanese especially etc. I am also interested into calculus, and higher math levels. I have Calculus For Dummies, and vector calculus from another author. Before high school, my math was horrible. I've learned myself that you can do anything you set your mind to with alot of persistance and determination. In high school, I got all A's in math and science, and my science grade was for awhile at 112%, the highest grade out of all 6 periods of students. I decided I wanted to be an engineer in astrophysics, or quantum physics, or just a physcist. I have gotten alot of support from my grandpa who is an investor/engineer."
I have had some exceptional students, who were really interested in learning, but I would have to say that if you had been one of my students, you certainly would have ranked in the top 5 percent, based on the little I have learned about you.
Good luck in the future. I'm sure you will succeed at whatever you try.
Thank you..I'd either want to be a pilot or engineer or physcist. I will try to be a commercial pilot first but it will be difficult. Mainly because I have some mental illness problems and you have to pass 2 things: 1) A psycology test 2) And you have to prove that you can work very well under stress. You have to because you have like 200 passengers whos life is in your hand. I can't act well under stress.. and I probably couldnt past the pscyhology test. In fact, I bet I'd go through and get the degree after all the hard work just to be turned down, as I have a mental illness and I doubt they would let me work with that.. If I couldn't do that I would try to fly private aircraft. But one thing I couldn't do is deal with aviation on where you don't fly. (Mechanic, air traffic control, etc) I just want a job where I can fly. I will probably want to be both a engineer in eletricial engineering on gaming systems or advanced technologys as well. This is also the first compliment I've gotten..for along time. Everyone on the other forums (and Im' sure some people on this forum) consider me a 'troll' and think I don't care about learning about numismatics. They would be very wrong.I guess this is why I am no longer welcome on the other forum I loved so much.. I Just have to learn to not ask questions as much as I do..good lord I could just find the answers by google or reading about them. I just want to know..everything. When I am old I hope to know more than the average person, I hope to read books my whole life and learn about all I can about life. That way I would know alot more and could teach my kids (if I have any) more.
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Rest in Peace
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GCL, without getting too "preachy" (I don't like being preached at and I don't like to do it myself), I think you'll find there's a certain amount of stress in whatever profession you choose. I also don't like stress, don't respond well to it, but over the years have learned to cope with it in my dual careers as a wildlife biologist and US Army Signal Corps Officer. A lot of stress, or maybe most of it is caused by circumstances over which you may not have control, particularly by the people with and for whom you work. When you deal with egos, personalities, and personal politics, stress is the result. Unfortunately, there are few professions in which one does not have to work with others much or most of the time. I thought working out of doors in wilderness areas as a wildlife biologist would be relatively stress free, but my bosses proved this not to be true; however, fortunately, they usually stayed back at the office while I was out communing with nature, so there were definitely compensatory aspects. Working for one's self is a possible solution, but then there are the stresses of providing for a family, meeting deadlines, and doing the job right. Except for me, my whole family is (or were) engineers and their stress levels ranged from relatively low to extremely high, the variances dependent upon the people with whom they worked, not the job itself. Since stress is part of everyday life, I might recommend you choose a profession in which you are interested and will give you job satisfaction rather than will provide the least amount of stress. With your talents, you will have many choices, an advantage not shared by many.
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Pillar of the Community
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GCL If a smiley can fly a star fighter !!  No reason that you cant fly a cessna !! Ive always been a goal setter !! and a go getter !! Any way BOT ,, The Minting process is quite an interesting thing considering how long its been going on,, Good luck with the essay !! Rick
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Rest in Peace
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Kevin, your essay is going great and your goals are admirable. Never let anyome tell you what you can or cannot achieve. You have the right attitude to excel in any field you try. Remember, mental illness can be controlled just like most other illness's. Keep up the hard work and many good things will come your way. I'm glad you are here sharing with us on the forum. Mike 
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