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Here is something that is interesting. Seller dkibuk has a 1887 P listed with photos and there are bids. Seller cucpup5600 has the same photos of the 1887 P coin, but it is listed as a 1887 O, and the 1887 O has bids. Also the photos of the 1921 P are the same photos by both sellers kma4013 and dkibck. I guess there are not a lot of photos of US coins in China and the sellers have to use the same photos?!?! Edited by Slider23
07/10/2015 12:49 pm
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I looked at the 1887 O and it just doesn't look right to me. The details do not have the correct dimensions (thickness) and my guess is it's a counterfeit of a perfect coin that has been manually scarred to make it look more genuine.
As a rule of thumb, I would simply not buy uncertified coins from China (and I'd sure as heck even be skeptical of certified ones!) I hate to generalize, but with the proliferation of fakes the country has produced, there's no reason to buy coins from there. It's an unnecessary risk and bringing them here, they'll end up fooling somebody who doesn't know they were made in China and illegally imported here.
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From the top link, looking at the third coin down (the 1896, which is actually an 1896-O)... I don't like the mint mark. And the metal looks too dark.
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07/10/2015 12:43 pm
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I agree with Scropper point for point. If you blow up these photos you can easily catch the Photoshop work that has been inexpertly done. Pixels in round hazy patches, probably to hide manufacturing errors.
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The only one that really jumps out is the 1882 from NYTXA. Check out the bubbles behind the head.
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How in the world did you find where the plagiarized text came from?  |
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That 1887 Morgan pictured in the auction for 1887 P and 1887 O is an 1887 -P VAM-27A http://www.vamworld.com/1887-P+VAM-27A If the Chinese are copying Morgan dollars down to the individual die details I just quit collecting. It's a photo of a legit coin and I guarantee the winner will not receive the one pictured. It is more likely stolen pictures from another auction just like the text TC found. (nice work btw!) |
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Text is from this seller's listings. Or just a fantastic coincidence? Honestly, that you were able to ferret that out astounds me, also. I think that suggests that the other conjectures here that the pics have been pirated, too, may be presumed to be valid. Colligo ergo sum
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I copied and pasted the text into Google. Easy and simple.
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Having the hunch or investigative instinct to do that is not so easy or simple, though. I remain impressed.
Colligo ergo sum
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07/10/2015 7:40 pm
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