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New Member
 United States
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ok guys! I have been trying to download the buffalo side of my nickel since 4a.m. and am still doing it wrong. I am following the directions and it never posts. don't know how I managed to get the Indian side downloaded. stupid luck I guess. will keep working on it. Any easy tips would be appreciated. Thanks
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New Member
 United States
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New Member
 United States
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I did it! Thanks for uour patience
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Pillar of the Community
United States
7390 Posts |
Wow, I'm sure there is a market for such a coin however like paralyze suggested, you're gonna have a heck of a time trying to sell it especially via a public venue. Even nazi stuff is a tuff sell most places and that stuff has Broad appeal due to militaria collectors. I'm guessing most auction houses, lage & small won't touch it. It's not something I would want in my collection but to each their own.
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New Member
 United States
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I am not so sure I want to sell it. I know it's a touchy subject, but it's what I happened to find and wanted to try and get some information on it. I hope I haven't offended anyone.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
7390 Posts |
For better or worse it's a piece of American history. If it were mine, I'd do a little research to find a highly respected American history university professor that specializes in civics or race relations. I bet they'd want to see it and possibly could tell you more about it if it were a member identification type piece
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2077 Posts |
Interesting piece. I disagree with what paralyse said about members not wanting to be identified outside meetings. When I was hiking on the Appalachian Trail in Virginia in the early 80s, I came across a Boy Scout Troop. They were all so proud of their KKK belt buckles that they insisted on showing them off.
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Valued Member
United States
374 Posts |
It would carry a nice premium, most Klan tokens do, but I would keep it for it's historical value. The stigma around historical artifacts is absurd. From my experience, the best place to buy/sell/trade/find such items are "gun and coin" shops.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4421 Posts |
Considering upon which "end" of the bison this hood rests, I'd not be too quick to label it as a pro-klan piece; this, any more than the presence of a cross makes it pro-Christian. My guess is that this was carved in the mid to late twentieth century. IMHO, the controversial, political subject matter of this piece outweighs the value of its artistry and somewhat enhances its value, albeit to a limited market. This isn't a showcase piece, but it does have a high curiosity factor about it.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
12057 Posts |
Very true, OldSkool. I think it depends on your location. A Klansman in, say, Portland, Oregon would be far less likely to advertise that fact to a random stranger than one in the deepest Carolinas or Mississippi. I live in Texas and still remember, growing up, my kindergarten teacher's husband had a Forrest KKK sword above the fireplace mounted in front of his Rebel flag, and he was once almost jailed for greeting his daughter's new boyfriend with a sawed-off 12 gauge named Shorty, on the occasion that he was African-American (which would have made him the endless target of jokes among his truck-driver buddies, and probably socially scandalized his wife, who was very active in the deb/ball and dance scene.) Even having more socially liberal parents, they didn't seem to mind using the N word on occasion, or admonishing me about being careful if I am playing at the house of the "colored kids" across the street. Of course, a lot has changed even here in 30 years, and any remnants of that particular ideology have been driven deep underground, as it has gone from being marginally socially acceptable to being something that would probably cost you your job and your reputation, especially since that small town, once 95% white, is now almost 70% non-white, and doing better than ever. My grandma's fourth (!) husband was a Luftwaffe oberst who flew Junkers and Heinkel bombers with the Condor Legion and Afrika Korps for the Third Reich. Upon her passing, he moved out of their big old house and headed for a trailer on the beach. I was 22 and about to get married and while going through her things and preparing to sell the house I came across a box full of Third Reich medals, pins, and ribbons. Being as her first two husbands were American veterans (a Pacific Theater fighter pilot and a young man who survived Normandy, respectively) this wouldn't do at all. So with the blessing of my ma & pa I unloaded all of it on ebay, hand-writing my own listings, and editing out the Swastikas in photoshop as required to list the items, and they all sold extremely quickly. I received about $2,200, which financed my honeymoon in Vegas when I got married later that year. Most of the items sold to Spain, Argentina, Brazil, but not Germany, where they were banned. Of course, later on in life, I realized I had probably let about $10k worth of stuff go, including some particular medals struck in silver with less than a hundred copies known to exist. I also inherited a cigar-box full of German coins, which I still have. At any rate, the market is there for KKK stuff, just as it is for Third Reich, and the buyers are usually quite eager to have at it, but I am not sure that ebay would be nearly as friendly towards such listings as they were in 2003.
Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I agree about the third Reich items being valuable aND I'm sure this nickel is relativly valuable to the right collector too. I came into quite a few authentic nazi pieces a few years ago including an NSDAP Gorget necklace and numerous pins patches shoulder boards knives helmets hats etc mostly from the luftwaffe & ss. I sold it all and bought a new truck with the proceeds (well ok, 3/4 the cost of the new truck but still)
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
12057 Posts |
Best piece out of the lot I sold was a Spanish Cross in silver w/swords, which brought almost $700, complete w/presentation box. Nowadays that's a $2.5k+ piece. I had several NSDAP & HJ pins w/numbers, shooting badge, wound badges, parachute badges, 4 Iron Crosses (1st/2nd class), ribbon bars, etc. Only thing I kept was a 1930s vintage German metal pill box that some of the items were stored in.
I think that a collector of KKK memorabilia would buy this nickel, for sure, as Cascade points out, but if you don't mind the stigma, it's quite a conversation starter.
Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis
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Pillar of the Community
United States
505 Posts |
That is one of the coolest Hobo Nickels ive seen...And yes,people should really get over being insulted by historical items...I agree that the things that Hitler did,and slavery were horrible things. However,If we banned every historical event or item that had an evil attached to it,their wouldnt be much history left....
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Pillar of the Community
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Also these historical items remind us that Voldemort in Harry Potter isn't jsut made up evil, but there were truly bad people in our own past as well and gives chance chance for reflection.
I just have a curious quesiton about this. the "no advertising" allowed on coins rule, since this is a known organization, does this coin fit that the design would have constituted advertising or is that only for stickers and such affixed to coins?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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From how it looks to me I'd say it's a modern engraving, post 1980's.
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