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New Member
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My comment was geared towards the slabs. It's uncommon for slab errors noting that they have a system (I think) rather than manually entering in grades. Therefore, two slab errors would really be unlikely...but that's why I'm asking :) maybe this is just a PCGS slab series I'm not familiar with.
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And thank you for the welcome :)  |
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Bedrock of the Community
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There are lots of fake slabs but these don't look like them to me, and I've seen a LOT of PCGS slabs. I have a few with the white paper "cheap" label, as well. If the certs match up online which they seem to I wouldn't worry about it.
Also, PCGS's error rate is quite a bit higher than you might think, details coins graded as non-details and vice versa, denominations and mint marks mistyped, wrong coin series numbers, and complete mismatching labels have all been seen and are continuing to be seen.
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Mamy fake slabs nowadays have the certification numbers match up, counterfeiters are getting smart. I know this isn't a super high valued coin, but something doesn't seem right about the barcode and lack of sonic seals.  |
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Pillar of the Community
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The bar code isn't to the left, the entire inserts were cut off center and/or printed off center. With that said I see nothing that screams fake to me. I dont have any clue what sonic seals are but this is an older pcgs slab so maybe it never had them to begin with.
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New Member
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Sonic seals are those little circles on the sides of the slabs. As for the label, the odds of PCGS cutting two labels off center back to back is very low, but I never thought of that. This image is of a known fake slab:  |
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Bedrock of the Community
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The little circles are just feature in the molds for the shells, they have nothing to do with the sonic sealing.
The OP slabs just appear to be from on off-center sheet in the label printer. It happens sometimes. And it it does it would ot be odd for consecutive slabs to both show the same offset.
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Welcome to Coin Community, peterspennies. This is a case where I think we accept the preponderance of the evidence indicating genuine coins whose labels are administrative errors. However, since there appears to be no record of prior sales of these serials - PCGS Cert Verification indicates none and I went back ten years on Heritage without seeing them - all the evidence either way is circumstantial.
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Hmm. I don't know because they seem like nice coins anyway. But, I think they are fake because those coins do not look MS 67 to me.
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Forum Dad
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the odds of PCGS cutting two labels off center back to back is very low, Conder nailed it, if these come off a printer in a row, which they likely do, it would be extremely likely for several to come off like that in a row. |
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But again, maybe the coins look better in hand.
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The coins may be genuine, but the slabs could be fake. Might be someone's quick way of trying to make $200 on a $2 coin. Possible, since I agree that they don't look MS-67 to me, either.
No sales of a give serial number doesn't make the number fake. A slab with a given serial number which is still in the possession of the person who originally sent it is would not have a record of a sale. Doesn't make it genuine, either - someone making counterfeit slabs may look for exactly this: a legitimate serial number that has no record of having been sold. Very difficult to trace possession, and harder to detect it being counterfeit.
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New Member
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Thank you for your feedback...I was really just curious. I doubt someone would actually take time to fake these low valued coin slabs. I appreciate everyone's comments :) I would email PCGS just to get their take, they would know best. But sadly I don't think I'd get a response, it's not a major issue. We have more problems to worry about. Either way these coins are both in high MS condition, whether the slab is real or not. It just seems odd that the slabs here match the fake one I provided with the missing circles (which on that forum said were related to the sonic seal) and the off center barcode/paper.
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Bedrock of the Community
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 Not sure if real or fake but probably real. Can't see why anyone would put one of those in a fake slab. Just not worth any big sales. I've got rolls of those things. Nice novelty, just nothing rare or expensive. |
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This was interesting; thanks for all the feedback :)
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