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Does This Coin Look Original Or Cleaned ?

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 Posted 09/06/2015  6:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
It looks like an older cleaning to me.
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 Posted 09/06/2015  6:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
Before I read other posts before mine, I thought it could have been lightly cleaned, but a long time ago.

I would not let that bother you too much;
I think is is a reasonably nice coin anyway.

AU50, ?lightly cleaned?

Have it slabbed, if that is what you wish to do, but with a potential value of less than $100, question yourself if the slabbing and shipping costs are justified.
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 Posted 09/06/2015  6:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinguy1986 to your friends list
Well from the photos it appears to have a decent bit of luster and usually if a lower AU range coin has good traces of luster and isn't covered in hairlines then it will grade ...
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Would you care to elaborate a bit on your comment, as I'm not sure I understand what you meant by that ..,
Also should I go ahead and get the coin and see what anacs thinks ?
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 Posted 09/06/2015  7:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list
OP ...

I do not think the coin has been cleaned inspite of what others have said. If I were you I would not hesitate one minute to pay 22$ for that coin as it is a nice coin for a high grade type set.

I have been collecting coins for a very long time and do not see any signs of cleaning based on what I've seen over the years looking at thousands of coins. It is dirty, as would be expected, for being 100 years old. It is not "blast white", nor does it exhibit tale-tale hairlines that would be characteristic of a wipe. Blast white and hairlines are a huge red flag.

I think that any of the three major grading services (PCGS, NGC or ANACS) would grade the coin problem-free AU 50 to 53.

Others here are entitled to their opinions and I fully respect that. Sometimes people get paranoid and gun shy and lean to the tendency of being overly cautious and resort to calling everything old "cleaned". That's just the way things are in this day and age.

Bottom line is that it is a nice coin for the money in my opinion.
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 Posted 09/06/2015  8:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dsfreeworld to your friends list

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Also should I go ahead and get the coin and see what anacs thinks


You've got to develop an eye for yourself and an understanding of how the grading services can be. Which, at best, is hot and cold with no guarantees.

I'll speak for myself but I don't think one us is going to tell you with any certainty, "yes" or "no". I think you need to take the plunge, learn from the experience and grow in your numismatic aspirations from there. You'll wind up with what you wind up with on a slab but more importantly, you'll wind up with a keener eye.

We've all had scenarios where we swore what a coin was going to to do in the hands of a TPG and it went the complete opposite way. Would I take my experience back over a few dollars? Not a chance. I learned a lot of valuable lessons over the past several years and they were well worth the price of admission. One thing I can tell you with certainty is that you should do the same.
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 Posted 09/06/2015  8:18 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list
I'd say cleaned albeit extremely lightly and some time ago.
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 Posted 09/06/2015  9:41 pm  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list
Got some nice crackage and I'll say it grades problem free.
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 Posted 09/06/2015  10:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHuntingDrew to your friends list
AU details, but maybe AU-53 problem free.
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 Posted 09/07/2015  08:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list
EF-45 Cleaned a while ago.
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 Posted 09/07/2015  12:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CartwheelCollector to your friends list
AU53 problem-free.
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 Posted 09/07/2015  2:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinCollector2012 to your friends list
I will say that this is a problem free AU coin.
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 Posted 09/07/2015  8:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jpbone to your friends list
I think the problem with these types of coins is the fact that every single person who has commented on the grade and originality of this coin is....... absolutely correct. If you sent this little puppy off 100 times, it would get anywhere from a EF-45 to AU-53. Details or problem free. It would get ALL of these grades. Some grades maybe more than others. I know a high end dealer who has made himself wealthy buying under graded super rare coins and resubmitting them as many times as necessary to get the desired grade.

I happen to really like the looks of the coin. I understand why you want to put it in plastic but if I bought it, it would be in my vice as soon as I got it home. Thus making the TPGs even more money. Haha! Put me down for AU-50 problem free. If you consider some kid taking the coin and rubbing it with his t-shirt tail 70 years ago "cleaning", then for sure, it's been cleaned.
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 Posted 09/07/2015  9:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Joe2007 to your friends list
I think it will grade problem free however I don't think that the surfaces are totally "original". May have been lightly wiped a long time ago.
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 Posted 09/07/2015  9:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jdmern to your friends list
AU 50 problem free from ANACS
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 Posted 09/07/2015  10:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinguy1986 to your friends list
@jpbone
Very well said , I agree with that 100%

You know I mostly collect barbers and I see that all the time, coins graded EF that look AU and vise versa along with detail coins that look ok in my opinion while some clean graded coins I wonder what they were thinking !!
I understand why a lot of you guys wouldn't slab a less vauable coin , but I'm thinking since anacs is doing this special I can put 25 in the coin And the 10 to have it graded .. Having 35 in a coin that normally sells in the 50-60 dollar range isn't to bad ..
I've been on the hunt the past couple days scanning ebay for a few nice coins that I can use to fill this 10 coin minimum , it's tough to find problem free coin on ebay that you can afford to have graded without having a fortune invested in to them ...
I've had some better date barbers that I've been wanting to submit for a while and I thought this would be a good time ..
Being able to have coins graded for less than 11 bucks each with free return ship and insurance allows me to send in a few coins that I normally wouldn't !!
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