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Would This 1970-S Be A Small Date Or Large Date?

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 Posted 09/11/2015  02:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SadiesAngel to your friends list
Thank you all of you, and Fuzzy 317 I'm going to
check that out and try to compared it to the pictures thank you.

Cwb I'm going try to get some pictures up tonight but
If not I'll get it on here first thing in the morning. It's been a long day and I'm afraid if I try to get pictures right now they probably won't come out that good but if your have a chance after they're posted to let me know your thoughts I would appreciate it.

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 Posted 09/11/2015  03:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SadiesAngel to your friends list
Oh please have mercy on me and these pictures but
I tried the best I could. I also tried cropping the date to
Measure it across with the 7 and the 0. To me it appears
To be the same length but I don't know. I also tried comparing
The Liberty to the site Fuzzy added tonight and I don't know if
It's just being tired but the Y and the E look weak but then again
My eyes right now aren't very strong, maybe you guys can tell better.

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 Posted 09/11/2015  03:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fuzzy317 to your friends list
the two close-up images are large date
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 Posted 09/11/2015  3:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add willy13 to your friends list
large date
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 Posted 09/11/2015  3:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SadiesAngel to your friends list
Thanks you guys. Can I ask why you came to that conclusion?
I'm confused because it appears the 7 is not below the o and also
I had wondered about the e and y in Liberty in my eyes didn't really appear strong? The top
Of the 9 appeared to be straight across the top of the 7 and O except
I could see some spacing when someone lined it up yesterday?
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 Posted 09/12/2015  04:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rayof315 to your friends list
The difference in spacing is so minute that it isn't always easy to see - especially when you first start out looking for this variety. One good way to tell (imo), is to look at a real small date and observe how the tops of the numbers line up with each other - and then compare that to the numbers on your coin, or any other large date.

While there are a number of "tells" that are useful (e.g., I always look first at the curl of the 9), they aren't, it seems to me, 100% foolproof, and are not in the end what makes the coin a small date -- maybe others can correct me if I'm wrong on this.
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09/12/2015 04:59 am
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 Posted 09/12/2015  09:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SadiesAngel to your friends list
Thank you Rayof315. That nine stood out
with me right away making me think large date
when I was comparing it to some of the other coins, but when I lined up the 7 and the 0 and
then compared the e and the y in Liberty then
It threw doubt in my mind. I would love to know
for sure or maybe it's just me hoping it to be a
Small date that I'm not seeing it.
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 Posted 09/12/2015  11:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rayof315 to your friends list
What I do in a case like this is set it aside - or save it anyway. One day, if you continue in the hobby, you ll run across it again and say to yourself: How did I ever think that could be a small date?

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09/12/2015 11:31 am
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 Posted 09/12/2015  2:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SadiesAngel to your friends list
I appreciate that Rayof315, thank you.
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 Posted 09/12/2015  3:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shtudentt to your friends list
100% large date
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 Posted 09/15/2015  9:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morgans Dad to your friends list
Great pictures from the OP. I suggest looking at them and remembering how pointed the lower loop of the 9 is.Also the upper loop of the 9 is blunt or not pointed. This coin is clearly a Large date from one PUP. The fact the top loop on the 9 is NOT pointed like the lower loop on the 9 means it is clearly a Large dated Cent, IF your coin has both ends of the nine pointed like the lower end of the 9 in your pictures, Bingo, that fact alone means the coin is clearly a small dated Cent. After much, much research on this type coin, I found this fact to be true. NO ONE previously pointed this simple PUP out prior to my stating so on this site. I saw this same question come up actually hundreds of times and decided to research the level top of the numbers, the low 7 , etc. I even contacted a "Cent Specialist " here on this site in a private message about my findings and was told, " there are already too many PUP'S for this coin." I do not attend this site as I use to but guess what question still comes up time and time again...... Be Well my fellow coin collecting passionate friends............. Study my findings against your coins, You too will find the facts are true.
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 Posted 09/16/2015  12:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SadiesAngel to your friends list
Thank you Morgan's dad. I'm learning
more and more everyday.
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 Posted 09/17/2015  9:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morgans Dad to your friends list
SadiesAngel, My Pleasure, My fellow Coin Collecting Addicted Friend....... Research and Patience and Determination= Education....
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 Posted 09/19/2015  03:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SadiesAngel to your friends list
Thank you Morgansdad.
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IF your coin has both ends of the nine pointed like the lower end of the 9 in your pictures, Bingo, that fact alone means the coin is clearly a small dated Cent. After much, much research on this type coin, I found this fact to be true. NO ONE previously pointed this simple PUP out prior to my stating so on this site.


What you talkin bout Willis ? Coop has always pointed that out. Unless you're the one that taught him about it.
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