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Pillar of the Community
United States
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 Wow! Definitely might be a proof! Super detail! |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Yeah, the strike is so good on this coin that I really, really hope it's not just a Chinese replica. 'Cuz that would really stink, you know?
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Pillar of the Community
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I didn't even consider that. Hmmmmmmm...
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Bedrock of the Community
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If the Chinese can make them this nice, we are in big trouble.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
932 Posts |
Yeep. There are some good ones.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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I know electrotypes are really popular for proof or pattern coins... Your looks legit to me, but I'm still learning about fake coins.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I see nothing to make me suspect a forgery; the date is correct, legend position obverse and reverse good, even has a bit of reverse clash towards the inner upper right of the wreath. Rims and denticles look correct.
Someone needs to get this to Rick Snow and let him take a look and see what he thinks. If it's UNC I would say it's gotta be MS65RD at worst.
Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis |
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Valued Member
 United States
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I'm going to send it to PCGS soon.
Even if it does turn out genuine it won't be a 65. There is a light hairline scratch from D in UNITED towards the wing. I don't think it's enough to details it but who knows.
Keeping fingers crossed!
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Valued Member
United States
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I went and looked at a few Proof FEC and if this is not a proof it sure is proof like .. I also looked over probably half dozen high MS coins just for comparison and none were struck as well as your coin , so I'd have to say my bet would be that it's a proof coin PR65.. Here's a ngc PR65 coin and in my opinion yours looks a bit better !!   |
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Pillar of the Community
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Might very well be proof.  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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PR-66 maybe? Great acquisition. What did you pay for it? |
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Poland
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Details of obverse are really awesome, but what do you think, guys, about lower part of wreath? Maybe it is picture fault, but they looks quite weak compared to other very high details. Also color looks little weird, but like I said previously, it might be fault of picture. How it looks in hand?
What worry me a little, is denticles on the coin's reverse.
Sorry for sceptical tone, of course I hope you bought a very nice proof FEC.
BTW - hello again guys and girls:)
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10/16/2015 07:23 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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its certainly MSPL in appearance. Were they polishing the dies on this series at strike time? This could be the proof dies and you've got one of the first business strikes off the pairing.
nice pick up
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United States
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Snow PR-4 dies seem to match. Most notably the doubling (Closed E in ONE hubbed over an Open E in ONE.)  So I guess the next question would be, were these proof dies also used for business strikes? Would that have been something that regularly happened during this era of the US mint? Edited by OLCoins
10/18/2015 04:23 am
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Pillar of the Community
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I have read before that since the dies were extremely difficult and expensive to make. They reused them whenever possible. If this isn't a proof cent then it looks like it was struck from proof dies. We need some more information about what was going on with the mint in 1858.
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