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Fake S VDB's Never Stop Showing Up..

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 Posted 10/25/2015  5:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list
Bobby , I understand what your saying but some how we need to inform new collectors that e-bay is not a child's playground. And that it's easy to get burnt if your not familiar with that site.
How about a separate forum topic " E-BAY; THE GOOD ,THE ,BAD ,AND THE UGLY " where we can tell about our Good pickups as well as our bad ones.
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 Posted 10/25/2015  6:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list
No, then they get lost. If the individual coins can't be found relatively easy with a search, then it's pointless.
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 Posted 10/25/2015  6:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
CHD's pic three posts above is absolutely scary.

Keep it up, man.
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 Posted 10/25/2015  7:36 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list

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No, then they get lost. If the individual coins can't be found relatively easy with a search, then it's pointless.


Also, I cannot stress enough, how important the thread title is, to make these topics easily searchable...
"Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert Oppenheimer

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 Posted 10/25/2015  7:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Correct. It's probably one of the most important threads on this site.

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 Posted 10/25/2015  8:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TypeCoin971793 to your friends list
@Bobby

I know it is possible to move threads into different forums, but is it possible to copy them into a new forum? What I was thinking was that the original thread stays where it is, but a copy of it gets put into a more-concentrated CCF counterfeit database, which would be more-easily searchable when non-members find it.

You can take this with a grain of salt. Just a suggestion.
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 Posted 10/25/2015  9:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Steele to your friends list
I agree with Bobby and like the idea of just locking it down once its confirmed fake. or confirmed real too I guess. keeps it in this forum so it is easily searchable and locking it down keeps it short ad sweet and from popping back to the top months later.
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 Posted 10/25/2015  10:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHuntingDrew to your friends list
Bobby, the only thing I will ask for is that before a thread is locked, at least keep it up for 24 hours to leave room for discussion.

https://goccf.com/t/243762

I was kind of hoping for some interesting replies as well too, lol.

And as I post this thread linking to that, the "1870 S" Trade dollar is up to $7,900, the 1796 is up to 6.4K, draped bust 9.2K, and the other 7.9K. An obvious sign of shill bidding, lord.


It appears as if the 1796 dollar one has already tricked someone. Someone bid $6,400 and they have almost 200 feedbacks.
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 Posted 10/25/2015  10:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add edweather to your friends list
Keep up the good work Drew
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 Posted 10/25/2015  11:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tweak800 to your friends list
I have a question because a lot of times, and thats been said before, the pictures are gone once listing is removed and a lot of these topics don't discuss what it is that proves it is a fake. I honestly ignore most of them because CHD says it's fake but I have no idea why. Shoot some of them look fine to me, some are obvious, and others I dont know. Anyway I'm not sure why, just like there is a general discussion forum why we can't have a Counterfeit Forum with sub forums like classic counterfeit and modern counterfeit. They should still come up in searches and get in the way of new comers trying to find something. I don't know just a thought.
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 Posted 10/26/2015  12:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kbbpll to your friends list
Frankly I think these "It's fake" threads cross the line too many times. I've been in a couple regarding 1909S VDBs here, and there seems to be this knee-jerk commentary without any substance whatsoever. If you're going to claim it's a fake, be prepared to state exactly your reasons why and with evidence to back it up. Comments like "100% fake" etc don't do anybody any good. A recent thread with CoinHuntingDrew is a good example. He says fake, I respond with images showing die markers that demonstrate that the coin matches certified examples, and there's nothing but terse replies that basically say "No, it's fake". Sure, counterfeits are the scourge of our hobby. But a seller deserves better than the quality of comments that get posted with these "I'm an expert, so it's fake" threads. Be specific. Present evidence.
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 Posted 10/26/2015  12:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHuntingDrew to your friends list
I already told you why I said it's fake, and others that were identical were proven fake by other well known experienced users here as well.
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 Posted 10/26/2015  12:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add burg to your friends list
"I find the posts educational and interesting. There was a suggestion a while back about making this a sub topic, and that might be the solution if these posts are irritating some"

"Correct. It's probably one of the most important threads on this site."

"Frankly I think these "It's fake" threads cross the line too many times. I've been in a couple regarding 1909S VDBs here, and there seems to be this knee-jerk commentary without any substance whatsoever. If you're going to claim it's a fake, be prepared to state exactly your reasons why and with evidence to back it up. Comments like "100% fake" etc don't do anybody any good. A recent thread with CoinHuntingDrew is a good example. He says fake, I respond with images showing die markers that demonstrate that the coin matches certified examples, and there's nothing but terse replies that basically say "No, it's fake". Sure, counterfeits are the scourge of our hobby. But a seller deserves better than the quality of comments that get posted with these "I'm an expert, so it's fake" threads. Be specific. Present evidence."

all good idea, and good points- maybe time time for a poll,

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 Posted 10/26/2015  01:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kbbpll to your friends list
CHD, don't take this the wrong way, but your response on the other thread was "You can clearly see the mintmark style is wrong, it's compressed." This is exactly what I'm talking about. I have no idea what you mean by that. I present images showing matches between subject coin and supposedly fake coin, and your reply is "clearly... wrong... compressed". Show us a picture. Link to a previous thread. Educate. I still don't get why the coin here https://goccf.com/t/243506 is immediately condemned as fake. These threads always just go down the rathole. "It's fake". "You're right". Next.
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 Posted 10/26/2015  01:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CelticKnot to your friends list
CHD, while usually thoughtful, often these types of threads seem to be witch hunts. What is the point of posting them here except to get the forum dad to report them? No one here is (likely) going to bid on them.


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Show us a picture. Link to a previous thread. Educate.

coop sets a great example.

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