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Grab Your 1971-S Proof Sets & Look For This Rare 5˘ Variety!

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 Posted 11/13/2015  12:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverStackerKid to your friends list




Mixed emotions.

Gonna go listen to Only Time by Enya.

Probably going to cry.
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 Posted 11/13/2015  12:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tweak800 to your friends list
I feel bad but I can't help but laugh . It's not a loss really at pr 66 they are worth 3 dollars anyway and as far as I know his coins are all really nice . So here's to hope and who knows you may get lucky and he had another. Let us know only took like 3 days to get to me in FL
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 Posted 11/13/2015  12:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverStackerKid to your friends list
We'll see I guess. I'm glad you got one though.
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 Posted 11/13/2015  12:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JDRMCB to your friends list

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Well I looked at brians coins just to see your pictures and I renig there is no difference in die state here are my pictures and as you can see the seperation lines are all about the same and those go away in later die states usually.


Being that it was an blatantly obvious error on the reverse die of a proof coin, I seriously doubt the die pairing was able to strike enough coins to advance the die state before being discovered and replaced. So it's my theory that all examples found should be almost identical.

It is interesting though that the one I have exhibits a deep cameo appearance whereas the stock photo in the listing I saw on ebay didn't appear to be a cameo?

I'll try to retake a few pics of the doubling on mine and post later to compare.

By the way, your ambiguous description of this prize has me very intrigued!
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 Posted 11/13/2015  12:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverStackerKid to your friends list
I think there are about 50, if my educated estamate is correct.
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 Posted 11/14/2015  2:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JDRMCB to your friends list

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I think there are about 50, if my educated estamate is correct


SilverStackerKid, how exactly did you come up with your educated estimate of about 50?
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 Posted 11/14/2015  3:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverStackerKid to your friends list
Mainly because of the range of cameos. About how many strikes does a proof die do before polishing?
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 Posted 11/15/2015  3:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JDRMCB to your friends list
I found this statement online pertaining to early 1970's DCAM Proof coinage:


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Up until the mid-1970s, not all proof coins that were minted had a cameo contrast. The technology available to the mint at that time only allowed for first 30 to 50 proof coins produced from a new set of dies to possess the deep cameo contrast. As the dies continued to be used to produce proof coins, the frosted surfaces of the devices became more mirror-like with each proof coin struck.


So that's roughly 50 coins struck before they transitioned into full mirrored proof coins like some of the known examples of this unusual variety.

However ,I feel that ANY attempt at calculating a realistic survival estimate of this unusual variety would be virtually impossible (mathematically speaking), due to the unknown variable of how many coins were found and removed from the bins by mint officials, immediately following the discovery and replacement of this blatantly obvious flawed reverse die.

Then you must consider, of the nickels that were overlooked, how many were able to go undetected and become successfully hand placed into proof sets, heat sealed and then somehow able to pass through the rigid final visual QC inspection (looking for mintmark presence and proper coin alignment), before being sleeved, boxed and ultimately shipped out to dealers and customers alike.

Taking all those factors into consideration, I have come to the following conclusion...

Until this very unusual proof variety receives the proper recognition and attention from "the powers that be", whom have the ability and resources to easily make this spectacular multi-variety proof coin known to the entire numismatic community, its actual population will most likely remain a mystery.


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 Posted 11/15/2015  8:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tweak800 to your friends list
Yes I know we have some people that look at this forum who have some rather high up connections. I hope the shoot a link out to the right people and get this looked at. I'd really like to hear if it was found early and pulled or not and how that extra metal that is frosted like the rest of the devices became part of the coin. I'm still looking for more but I doubt I will be as lucky as last time
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 Posted 11/15/2015  9:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHuntingDrew to your friends list
Well, my LCS has about 250 proof sets from 1968-present in their vault. Going to have to see if I can get my hands on a 1971 S that has this going on.
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 Posted 06/19/2017  7:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JDRMCB to your friends list
BUMP.
I was perusing my collection today and once again this mysterious multi-variety nickel has got me wanting more info about it!

The unofficial pop count was at 9......do I hear 10?
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 Posted 11/07/2018  2:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JDRMCB to your friends list
Bump....

Well it's been almost a year and a half since I've mentioned this enigmatic Proof nickel. I've personally searched through hundreds of 1971 proof sets in that time that I have purchased from various auction sites and LCS's and still haven't found another one. Anyone else have better luck?

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 Posted 11/07/2018  3:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list
Very nice find! I do remember hearing about this one too.
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 Posted 11/07/2018  3:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list
Not one that has been in the limelight all these years.
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 Posted 01/08/2020  4:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JDRMCB to your friends list
Bump.......
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