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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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I personally dont know much past Henry VII because that is when the shillings/testoons stop but from what I remember William the Conqueror and maybe Harold I can be had for somewhere between a few hundred to a few thousand.
I guess if a thousand isn't too much for you then I would recommend buying crowns. Some of the nicer ones from the mid 16th and 17th centenary can be bought for a few thousand in great condition.
Each denomination has their own true rarities. The Henry VII Testoons can be 10s of thousands and a Cromwell sixpence for example is so rare there is no price listed in the catalogue. Then there is the gold. Some of the tipple unites can be worth nearly as much as a hundred thousand dollars if not more.
I dont think there is a time that at which all the coins are expensive, there are always the more 'desirable' denominations which are more expensive and the less 'desirable' ones which are less expensive.
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Valued Member
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Les desirable is for me. I might not worry too much about keeping them the same type of coin but might just look for nice examples regardless. It's comforting to know I can go back in time without going broke.
Any suggestions on honest dealers of British coins?
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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I have dealt with Chris Kellow from Glenley Coins and Lloyd Bennett from Coins of Britain. Though most of my coins have been from ebay and private sellers.
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United Kingdom
856 Posts |
'British' coins can be found right back to the Celts (150BC and on). Though perhaps Alfred and his predecessors (late 800s AD) can be considered to be the first Kings of the land that later became England. In terms of a 'United Kingdom' then Anne is the first real ruler following the Union of England and Scotland in 1707. So you have a lot of choice as to when you decide your collection will start.
As to denominations, I have a contact who collects examples from each reign, all different metals, different designers, denominations etc .. Basically there aren't any rules about coin collection. You have to decide for yourself!
You may find you like a particular value of coin (I too like shillings) but you don't have to stick with one.
As for cost, well, everyone has their own budgets. Some coins will stretch that, others can be had for less. the key thing is to buy coins in the best condition you can afford. You can get plenty of advice about grading on forums like this. Though remember, if you are collecting British coins it's best to learn British grading standards as they vary internationally.
Starting with some more modern coins you can learn about grading without spending a fortune. Though if you venture back before the mid-1600s to hand made (hammered) coins you will need to learn to assess them differently from the later machine made ones!
Slabs? Most UK collectors don't seem that keen and the majority of collectors I know collect 'raw' coins or break open slabs if that's what the coin comes in.
Most of all? Have fun and don't be afraid to ask questions!
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Edited by Tom Goodheart 11/07/2015 11:41 am
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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Aethelred is considered by many to be the first British coins, not the Unready but the one before him c. 847 - 871.
I wouldn't limit yourself to one variety of coin but try to find a nice example from each ruler. If you can get yourself a copy of Spinks Catalogue (even if it is a few years old) it will give you an idea about the relative rarity and available types of coin.
I would just get started though... the way my collection grows is by repeatedly adding coins I don't have, whether that be by ruler, type or year. In your case just keep looking to add portraits you don't have and you will build a nice collection.
I think you will get back quite a long way before you start having problems.
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Valued Member
 China
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Thanks guys. The entire project sounds like fun and I think I might give it a go. It's tough sometimes living in China since every purchase is online and lots of dealers don't trust you but I can probably find some that will ship here. I'll start with Elizabeth 2 and just work backwards. That's the way I like to do things since that way, there are no frustrating holes.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
500 Posts |
Sounds like a great way to approach it Tom. Good luck and post your progress from time to time.
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
709 Posts |
There are some English/british monarchs with interesting life stories.
For example:
Edward VIII ( only king for a short while in 1936 ). You would need to get one of the colonial coins issued to have one with his name. As far as I know, there are no commonly available coins with his effigy on them. There are a lot of so-called patterns and proofs, but these are modern repros.
Going back a bit, try Matilda and Stephen.
Good luck with your collection. Sounds interesting.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote: Yes the penny is the longest-living coin, dating back to before William the conqueror, 1066. The first coins to be known in modern times as pennies were those produced by Offa of Mercia (757-796) c. 790, although the sceattas produced before his time may have been known to contemporaries as pæningas, or pennies.
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United States
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You could do Shillings all the way back to Edward VI, then switch to groats (four pence) until you to get back to Edward III, then anything earlier than that would probably have to be pennies.
Obtaining nice examples of Cromwell, Mary, and Richard III will be quite a challenge.
Edited by Kefiroth 11/09/2015 12:04 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I've actually considered doing exactly this, and reading this, I think I might. By the way, groats go back to Edward I. I personally like groats and shillings, but I would probably end up doing pennies since they were much more consistently minted.
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Valued Member
 China
171 Posts |
You mentioned Cromwell, Mary and Richard II as being difficult to find. What about rulers like Richard Cromwell, Jane, Edward V, Henry VI and others with very short reigns? Did they even have coins minted during their short time in power?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Looking at Wildwinds, there is one coin listed for Richard Cromwell- a gold double crown. Listed under lady Jane Grey were a fantasy piece and a counterfeit, both struck c. 1840 by E. Emery. I haven't looked into the rest.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Having a quick look through Spink, Henry VI minted multiple coins, Matilda has some coins bearing her name, under the Angevin Party. Edward had a few coins minted but most of them are very difficult to distinguish from those minted by Edward IV.
I couldn't find anything for Lady Jane Grey, considering she was only queen for 9 days, I think. Spink writes "Oliver was succeeded as Lord Protector by his son Richard for whom no coins were struck."
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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The different countries of the Commonwealth have different portraits of the monarchs. The Indian coins even have an Asiatic portrait of the young bust Victoria. If I were to create a set like this (and I might just do it as it appeals to me ) I wouldn't worry too much about the coin type or the metal type either. Any denomination would be great as long as the portrait and Monarch is different 
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