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Where Do Dimes Come From

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 Posted 11/24/2015  5:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pistareen to your friends list
Consider starting this dime collection with the coin Thomas Jefferson used as the basis of a tenth of a Frderal dollar, the half Pistareen of Spain. Five Pistareens to the Spanish Milled Dollar makes the half Pistareen worth ten Federal "cents" a coin TJ said was "perfectly familiar to us all. They circulated in colonial America before 1796 when the first Philadelphia mint Disme / dime came about. Extending the mint set back to Colonial America you ought to get half "cross Pistareens" from Seville, and Madrid which covers the waterfront after 1730.
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 Posted 11/24/2015  8:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numisma to your friends list
I think you're talking about reales, which were valued at $0.125 USD. I don't believe Spain or its colonies ever produced a coin valued at $0.10 USD. The real was, however, the coin that inspired the American dime. Also, by the time the dime was introduced in 1796 it was known as a dime- the word 'disme' was/is only applied to the 1792 pattern.
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 Posted 11/24/2015  9:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AgCoinAu to your friends list
........you see when a mommy dime and a daddy dime really love each other ..............they mint something really special...
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 Posted 11/24/2015  11:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numisma to your friends list
You just made my day.
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 Posted 11/25/2015  08:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dsfreeworld to your friends list

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........you see when a mommy dime and a daddy dime really love each other ..............they mint something really special...


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 Posted 11/25/2015  11:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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Consider starting this dime collection with the coin Thomas Jefferson used as the basis of a tenth of a Frderal dollar, the half Pistareen of Spain. Five Pistareens to the Spanish Milled Dollar makes the half Pistareen worth ten Federal "cents" a coin TJ said was "perfectly familiar to us all. They circulated in colonial America before 1796 when the first Philadelphia mint Disme / dime came about. Extending the mint set back to Colonial America you ought to get half "cross Pistareens" from Seville, and Madrid which covers the waterfront after 1730.

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I think you're talking about reales, which were valued at $0.125 USD. I don't believe Spain or its colonies ever produced a coin valued at $0.10 USD. The real was, however, the coin that inspired the American dime. Also, by the time the dime was introduced in 1796 it was known as a dime- the word 'disme' was/is only applied to the 1792 pattern.
I believe Pistareen is correct, there are five pistareen to a dollar, so a half-pistareen would be equivalent to a dime. I do not think they were intended to circulate in the Americas, but did anyway.
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 Posted 11/25/2015  2:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numisma to your friends list
I just did a bit of research on this.


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Pistareen (plural pistareens)
1.A Spanish silver coin worth two reals, used as common currency in the Americas in the 18th century.


2 reals = 4 to the dollar (official value)

However, you are right in the fact that because of the debased silver content, they were only accepted for 5 to the dollar.
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 Posted 11/25/2015  6:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TJsCoins to your friends list
Nice dime set! Cool collecting theme!

Here is some Pisterine Info (i will have to get one of these for sure:D):http://numismatics.org/wikiuploads/...stareens.pdf

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 Posted 11/27/2015  7:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pistareen to your friends list
Quick answer: There are eight bits to the Spanish Milled Dollar "piece-of-eight" with each bit or one real equal to twelve and a Half Cents. But Thomas Jefferson was not talking about those, rather he based the dime on the half Pistareen. The confusing part is that both half Pistareen and Spanish Colonial bit say they are one "real" but Pistareens being intended for Spain and not international trade were made 20% light, so that five Pistareens by weight equaled four two bit pieces. Sometimes called long bits and short bits, the Spanish Colonial coins were traded along with Pistareens and their parts before the American Revolution. Pistareens were first made at a time that Spanish Colonial mints were still making cobs. Pistareens had a 25 year head start in commerce over the Spanish Colonial "Pillar" coinage.
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 Posted 11/30/2015  6:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numisma to your friends list
Yes. I was not aware of that.
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 Posted 12/01/2015  02:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Parklane64 to your friends list
Where do dimes come from?

The tooth fairy.
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 Posted 12/01/2015  07:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Half to your friends list
But but you cant have "centavo" without "cent"!

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 Posted 12/01/2015  1:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add EFLargeCents to your friends list
Don't forget there is also a Hawaii dime!
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