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Yeah...I'd say MD too because it looks to be a low-relief shear, and the MM is doubled too. I hope you find one someday....  |
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What always amazes me about coins like this one is how MD seems to be selective. I agree that it is MD, but notice how it appears only on the 9 and MM? You can see a little on the 1 but none on the 6 or other 9. When you see stuff like that, it makes you shake your head and think..."how is that possible?"
Is there any other MD on the obverse?
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ANY time you see identical doubling in the date and on the mintmark of coins produced before 1990 it is always Machine Doubling. This is actually a very classic no-brainer case of Machine Doubling. |
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I would like to see the whole obverse. This is MD but I differ in that mint mark was added afterwards.
Edited by Homer1
02/08/2008 6:22 pm
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Homer, before 1990, mint marks were hand punched into the die after it was hubbed. This means that any doubling conveyed to the die in the hubbing process would not be on the MM as it was not there when the devises were applied to the die. It was added later.
Jim
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Here is another. This one may be a bit more exagerated. sorry about being up-side down, it is "raw":  I have other photos of the obverse that show a lot of MD on the profile. They are available if desired.   I thought I would post them, after all. They may clarify some details. Dick Edited by livingdinasaur
02/09/2008 12:58 pm
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Please be informed that is not entirely true after talking with many grading cos and other Professionals
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Is that Yours Livingdinasuar? I like to think it's a DD but most think it's MD.
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Anything done to the working die will be conveyed to the planchet. MD is the displacement of metal in any direction, due to the movement in the retraction of the hammer, and the feeder arm inserting the blank into the collar for the next strike. It usually is referred to as "ejection doubling, MD shelf doubling, etc" It always, or most always will affect both the date and MM as a unit, die to physical location, See the profile photos, (if presented). This is clearly shown.
Dick
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02/09/2008 1:10 pm
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Homer1, Yes. It is one of two, or three I have.
Dick
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There's a point of confusion going on here... The mintmark is added after all the other details on the die in a completely different process...true. But the mintmark and all the other devices are on the die at the time it strikes coins, making any doubling ( Machine Doubling) that occurs during the striking process include the possibility of doubling ANYTHING on the die at that time, which does include the date and the mintmark. The idea that the mintmark is added after Machine Doubling occurs is wrong. |
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I don't believe there is any RPM. The "appearance" of an "RPM" is due to the displacement of the upper level of the MM, making it "look" like, but in fact is not, an RPM.
Dick
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Thanks for the info and thanks to CC for making it clear!
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Thought that was what I was saying, Chuck. Guess I was not very clear. Thx, Jim  |
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