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Help Me Decipher What Was Written On This Currency... Please Help

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 Posted 03/03/2016  12:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CollectorKing to your friends list
I actually took a look at it and I don't think it is a short snorter. A short snorter would have been signed by different people. If you really look at the letters It looks like all the words/letters were written by the same person, and it doesn't look like names either. Just looks like a note somebody wrote on back in the day IMO, sorry. I could be wrong though, It is really hard to read.
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 Posted 03/03/2016  12:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lettow to your friends list
There was a Gabriel Santos (Santos G third name down) and a Dante Giusto Falabella (Falabella D G the last name) that served together on the USS Colorado during WWII. The other names I can either not make out or do not show on the Muster Roll for the Colorado.

The names all appear to be Hispanic and are very likely some of the Spanish speaking members of the crew. It may be that the names on the Muster Roll and the names they went by do not match as that is not uncommon among Mexicans in particular.

The Colorado served in the Pacific and certainly crossed the 180th Meridian and the Equator.
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 Posted 03/03/2016  1:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add xinfantry to your friends list
Lettow, does that mean it is a short Snorter?
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 Posted 03/03/2016  2:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add xinfantry to your friends list
I just dug a little deep, the two names on this ship were during some major battles and many many many many people were KIA and this ship also helped in the landing on okinawa, It was a battle ship.
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 Posted 03/03/2016  3:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lettow to your friends list
I would classify it as a short snorter.

Passing the 180th meridian and the equator for the first time is a big deal in the Navy. They have a ceremony on ship and during WWII certificates were handed out to the shellbacks who entered the realm of Neptunus Rex by passing over the equator for the first time.

I have seen many notes commemorating this rite of passage signed by the sailors who took part.
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 Posted 03/03/2016  3:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lettow to your friends list
I have well over a hundred short snorter notes. The Navy is the only service that I encountered where names were listed in this manner -- last name followed by initials. It was not universal as I have notes signed by Navy personnel who used their full names in the usual order also.

Can you post a picture of the back?
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 Posted 03/03/2016  4:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add xinfantry to your friends list
Lettow, IS there a higher premium for short snorters like this? I wont sell it just for insurance purposes.
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 Posted 03/03/2016  4:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lettow to your friends list
I don't see these signatures adding much to the value. In fact, they may detract. The signatures are not very clear and hard to decipher. Signatures of high ranking officers, Pearl Harbor survivors, Medal of Honor recipients, KIAs or POWs or celebrities add value. Signatures of lower enlisted, not so much, unless connected to submarine service, UDT teams, or similar specialized service.

There may be a premium if it marked an historic event such as V-J Day, but not for an equator crossing.
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 Posted 03/03/2016  5:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add xinfantry to your friends list
This is him KIA/MIA Santora Gabriel Elwin
24 July 1944 Tinian Island S1c USNR,,,,, USS Colorado
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 Posted 03/03/2016  6:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add xinfantry to your friends list
Initially Davis, Heindrycks, Santora and Smith were the missing sailors. Their station received a direct hit from the enemy shore emplacements and their bodies were never found. The bodies of Dick, Martinez, Saylor and Slanton were transferred from the USS Colorado to the USS Tryon. The Uss Tryon delivered the bodies to the 4th Marine Division Cemetery on Saipan for burial.

Dick was originally buried in grave #1060 as Pick,HL. A simple spelling error. The body soon became unknown X-39 and is now buried at the Fort McKinley Cemetery, Manila, Philippine Islands, plot H, row 16 grave 141. Unfortunately the dental records do not match leading me to believe his body was mixed up with another from the crew.

Martinez was buried in grave #1055 by name. Because he had nearly perfect teeth, the Army decided there was not enough evidence to support individual identification. The body became unknown X-74 and is buried at the Fort McKinley Cemetery in plot L, row 14, grave 50. The dental records do compare.

Slanton was buried in grave #1067 by name. I can find no valid reason why his identity was changed to unknown X-76. The physical and dental characteristics all compare. He is buried at the Fort McKinley Cemetery in plot G, row 4, grave 33.

The final case is the hardest to explain. It is also the saddest of the four.

The reader should look at the table on the left at the names Sailors and Saylor. Sailors was originally buried in grave #1037 and Saylor was buried in grave #1056. Both were buried by name. There were no problems until the Army reprossessed the bodies. The body in grave #1037 (Sailors) became unknown X-70 while the body in grave #1056 (Saylor) was identified as Sailors and sent home to be buried in Jefferson Barracks National Cemetery in St. Louis, Missouri. In plain English, the Army mixed up the bodies. X-70 is presntly buried in the Fort McKinley Cemetery plot F, row 5 grave 2.

The four cases files are being forwarded to JPAC where nothing will probably be done to correct the situation.

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 Posted 03/03/2016  6:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add xinfantry to your friends list
@Lettow



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 Posted 03/03/2016  6:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add xinfantry to your friends list
The the one up from last name looks like the name Saylor.... I am probably grasping at straws annoying the members of this site
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 Posted 03/03/2016  8:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CollectorKing to your friends list
well very interesting.. Glad I was wrong and turned up to be a short snorter!

LETTOW- Over 100 SS, that's a lot!! Pretty Cool
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 Posted 03/04/2016  10:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Buddy to your friends list

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The the one up from last name looks like the name Saylor.... I am probably grasping at straws annoying the members of this site



Abolutely not! I, for one, wouldn't begin to know where to look for all that information.
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 Posted 03/04/2016  12:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lettow to your friends list
I suspect the term "Salty Sniffer" on the back was someone's play on the words "Short Snorter".
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