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Germanicvs - I always enjoy seeing the incredible coins in your collection and this is another beauty. The 1793 is missing in my large cent collection and perhaps I won't ever have one, but I can enjoy seeing yours. I'm not smart enough to grade it but see that it is so beautiful. Perhaps lady liberty had some teen age acne and it will go away in a few years? Ok, kidding but I love the coin and thanks for sharing.  Member ANA and EAC "You got to lose to know how to win". Dream On by Aerosmith |
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United States
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I'd welcome that coin into my book set any day of the week. The coin is in excellent condition,but I wouldn't call that corrosion.
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United States
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She's a Beauty.
I guess it's the nature of the design, the hair looks wind blown, and the focal point is her face,- it appears to me, that the 'impairments' are swept away behind her and really don't interfere with what catches my eye.
The right 65% of the obverse is the 'look at me' part.
Same with the reverse, just so much of the eye pleasing stands out.
I'm sure the color of your coin helped that a lot, just a great looker.
Edited by Precious Mental
03/08/2016 8:51 pm
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United States
8904 Posts |
I agree with everyone's posts: This is a glorious coin! Amazing detail with pits in the copper due to, but I agree with Kanga, the inferior quality of the copper the USA used at the time.
I'm not sure how the Professional Graders would grade this, but I, personally, would grade this coin VF-20.
I think the pits are from the original copper deficiency so I don't think this should be a "details" coin.
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United States
5854 Posts |
I think this coin has EF details.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1659 Posts |
Wonderful piece of history - a highlight of any collection.
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[quote]She's a Beauty. I guess it's the nature of the design, the hair looks wind blown, and the focal point is her face,- it appears to me, that the 'impairments' are swept away behind her and really don't interfere with what catches my eye. The right 65% of the obverse is the 'look at me' part. Same with the reverse, just so much of the eye pleasing stands out. I'm sure the color of your coin helped that a lot, just a great looker./quote] [quote]XF-40 sharpness, dark fields with lighter brown details, serious post strike pitting on obv mostly concentrated in the field behind the bust, similar pitting on the rev but more evenly distributed. Some minor rim/edge damage. Net VG-7./quote]  I would love to have that coin! Bravo! |
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Thank you, everybody for your interesting comments. As mentioned, this coin is a bit of a puzzle: severely pitted, yes, but otherwise good surface quality (no corrosion or graininess) in areas where it is not pitted. PMD, or poor original planchet quality? I guess we will never know. Whatever the case, I agree with your assessment and grade her VF35 details, net VG8. Edited by GERMANICVS
03/09/2016 1:11 pm
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I by no means have any expertise of the topic of early USA copper ... so my reply is not intended in any way to suggest information relative to the grade of this coin. That said ... I can appreciate a lovely and relatively well preserved example of USA coinage history ... and this 1793 Cent certainly meets that objective. David |
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The coin has EF sharpness, but the pits would give it a "details" grade. Overall I'd say that it is worth Fine money. The copper for these coins came from the good old U.S.A. This was before the mint started to import planchets from England. The quality and purity of the copper was suspect, and it's been my experience that the Wreath Cents were among the worst. The piece in my collection, which is a Sheldon 11-C is lucky that it did not split in half. There is more than one alloy here! Here it is.   NGC put this one in an AU-50 holder, which is nuts.  The commerical pricing grade, even with the rims would be EF-40. EAC (Early American Coppers) would have this one down to VF-25, but you would still pay EF money for it. For those who are not familiar, EAC grading is ultra conservative, but it is in some ways more reasonable because it does not reject copper pieces with problems the way the grading services do. It provides a sharpness grade, describes the problems and gives a net grade. |
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A very, very nice S-11c, R-3-, billjones.
Nice color and good surfaces. The obverse planchet fissure seems very slight. EAC 25 seems about right.
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United States
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Nice coin Bill. As for the coin in question, EAC should call it Fine-12 overall. I think VG is undergrading a bit.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1499 Posts |
Fine-12?  Are you sure you are not Bill Noyes? (A ruthlessly conservative EAC grader) When I see pieces with corroded reverses in and EF-45 holder with a $35,000 price on it ... I don't think Fine-12 exactly accurate. Edited by billjones
03/11/2016 12:11 pm
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681 Posts |
VF35 details. Net Fine.
20yr EAC member.
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Germany
1849 Posts |
billjones, I think NH Collector may have been referring to the OP coin, not your specimen which is a superior coin.
Edited by GERMANICVS
03/12/2016 02:28 am
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