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High grade MS is a little harder to find then PRF. After all,proofs are meant to be high grade. John1  |
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If you send in bulk submissions the grading price per coin is greatly reduced. If you manage a few 70s per bulk submissions you can sell the 69s for a few bucks a piece and still make some money. A lot of people don't want to pay the premium price of 70s so there are plenty of people that buy the 69s.
You can also write off the grading costs as a business expense so the dealer isn't losing anything by getting moderns graded.
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You should visit the NGC Registry site and take a look at the sets that collectors have on public display. The registry ranks them by a score based in part on their grade but also taking into consideration the coin's rarity. So there's an element of competition to collecting slabbed coins of all types. |
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Its entirely possible the dealer had bought them graded, but that cost doesn't get passed onto the dealer if they're buying a collection. I had a customer once who wanted to collect every Canadian circulation silver dollar in every grade from Poor to MS and would have every one TPG'ed to ensure of it. |
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Modern coins follow a boom-bust cycle, on average. The first certified MS-70 coin from a given year will bring a king's ransom. It drops off steadily from there unless there aren't many 70s for that year. Let's use the 2015 March of Dimes set as an example. The set cost a bit over $60 and came with 3 coins. NGC had a special slab created for the "first strike" coins. It probably cost $50-60 to get all three coins graded. If you were lucky enough to get three PF-70s back, they sold like hotcakes on ebay for $550-600 per set. PF-69s sold for $250 per set. Raw sets sold for $120 per set. Some people made a LOT of money that way, especially those who had friends and family order the coins on release day to circumvent the limit of 5 per household. |
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This is interesting. Let me tag along to see the replies.
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Simple answer, so people can sell them for a lot more money to other people willing to pay a lot for common coins with high numbers.
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04/07/2016 5:15 pm
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Simple answer, so people can sell them for a lot more money to other people willing to pay a lot for common coins with high numbers.
That sounded quite a bit like me when I started collecting recently. However, I tried to keep my purchases under $10, so no real harm done, I suppose. |
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Simple answer, so people can sell them for a lot more money to other people willing to pay a lot for common coins with high numbers. And it works. At coin shows I see so many slabbed coins that I think could be found in change all the time. |
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How close to correct are the prices in graders guides, like the NGC Price Guide. In the NGC, I routinely see modern Lincolns at $15 to $20.
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I'd take those book prices with a grain of salt. Use ebay sold prices as well as "PCGS auction prices realized" (google it). |
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Quote:I'd take those book prices with a grain of salt. Use ebay sold prices as well as "PCGS auction prices realized" (google it). The PCGS auction guide is really nice, thanks for recommending. Is there a way to track the history of my NGC graded coins? Auctions, realized prices, etc? Thanks. |
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PCGS prices realized includes NGC coins.. Just look under the "cert" column :)
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PCGS prices realized includes NGC coins.. Just look under the "cert" column :)
Neat! Is there a way to track a coin I own over time? To see how my very own (fill in the blank, for example 1884 Morgan) moved around - prices, etc? |
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Catalog prices on modern circulation issues actually tend to be absurdly low. Even the RedBook lists a Gem 1982-P quarter for $15 but you'll never even find a chBU on ebay for less than about $50. Give upon finding a true Gem at all since the nicest pieces aren't well struck and go into MS-67 holders that sell for $600. It's odd how all the prices listed for old coins are way over what they really bring but prices on moderns can be a tiny fraction of true market value. Time don't fly, it bounds and leaps.
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