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Valued Member
United States
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MS 64. Beautiful coin in uncirculated. The rays look cool.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
94367 Posts |
Agree 64 minimum. Struck from rusted die (right obverse field)? Super nice example.
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
18708 Posts |
this is one of my favorite coins and just stunning in MS. MS65.
thanks for history lesson as I never knew that about the arrows. I've learned more about coin history as a member here for a couple years than I did in the previous 50.
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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Superb coin!  A bit easy to over grade these coins. To my eye, in MS grades, (due to the many high points that protect the adjoining field) the reverse often seems to be better than the reverse. That seems to be the case here, also; there seems to be more tiny nicks in the right obverse field, than on the reverse. Try to exercise your eyes, looking for tiny nicks on the high points on both sides. Perhaps then there may be less of a problem with differential grading of each side. Having said that, I will still leave it up to others to offer their own grading opinion. I do not want to offer my opinion, to bias what follows. I prefer to read other opinions instead, in this case.  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
5683 Posts |
Gorgeous coin! I'll say MS-64. Possibly slight uneven toning on the obverse, but it might be just the lighting.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
12057 Posts |
Outstanding MS64. Beautiful die cracks, original luster & slight patina. Simply a superb specimen for the type.
dsfreeworld ought to enjoy this one.
Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
1499 Posts |
NGC graded this 1853 With Arrows Quarter MS-61. Part of the reason for the low grade may have been due to the fact that it has been dipped and now has a white appearance.
Dipped coins are on the outs with a fair number of advanced collectors these days. Some of these guys equate dipped with cleaned, which is clearly wrong. Some of them have been pushing that narrative to the extent where dipped coins should be labeled as "cleaned coins" on the holder. I've been pushing back on that idea HARD. No collector should be dumping on other people's coins for that collector's benefit.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
12057 Posts |
If this came back as an MS61 and it was my coin I'd raise heck and hammer a reconsideration, and/or immediately cross it to PCGS. MS61 is flat out ludicrous.
Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis |
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
21788 Posts |
Now that it has come back from grading, I will allow myself to comment that
it looks like NGC takes the lowest graded side to give to grading to, for the coin as a whole.
I feel that this coin grades differently on each side.
The lowest graded side (obverse), I would have thought would have come out at
MS62,
the highest graded side (reverse), at MS64.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3210 Posts |
I'd resend it out....NGC was harsh on this one.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
5828 Posts |
 This coin should've been MS-63 at the LEAST. Great looking coin  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
6396 Posts |
I was thinking this coin might have some friction on Liberty's breast and thigh, plus some loss of luster in the right obverse field. In that case MS-61 might be a net-grade with the grader feeling an AU-58 would have been too harsh.
If the fields in-hand have full luster then the assigned grade does seem low. The price goes up fast for higher MS grades; this coin might be worth cracking out and submitting to PCGS. Even an MS-62 would repay the submission cost.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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A one year type at that!! They're nuts..Most everyone loves this design.Should have been MS63
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