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Test Your Ike Skills-1971 S

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 Posted 05/23/2016  02:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jimmyjohns7724 to your friends list
I'm pretty set on trying out ICG to test the waters. They're the only TPG that will do a single coin for a reasonable fee. I don't plan to sell it any time soon and the biggest complaint I've heard from ICG is the resale comparison. Where do you think it is grade wise ? Is it worth it to pay the extra to PCGS on this one?
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 Posted 05/23/2016  02:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jimmyjohns7724 to your friends list
I'm still fairly new to the coin game and trying to work on a budget to feel it out before jumping in too deep but input from experience on a TPG is certainly appreciated
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 Posted 05/23/2016  02:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numisma to your friends list
I'm not exactly great with grading, but I do agree that this coin has enough marks to hold it back. I don't think ICG is the best way to go, but perhaps ANACS? I am not really familiar with either service.
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 Posted 05/23/2016  02:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jimmyjohns7724 to your friends list
It's only a few more dollars for NGC so I may go with them I guess. I hear a lot of bad about the "new" ANACS. I figured to maybe go the cheapest route just to get a rough grade. Idk Its a tough call on the marks though I've been checking and comparing the 65's and they're rough. Like I wouldn't buy one for over $10 rough. It's hard to say and I'm obviously the owner so it's easy to assume it'll pull a high grade, but I'm gonna gamble on this one so I may as well go NGC. I'll be sure to post a follow up to see what it scores.
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 Posted 05/23/2016  04:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
Jimmyjohns7724,
The so called 68 grade you posted,who graded that one? Your coin I would say MS66 at the most but expect a 65 or 64.I should tell you that I am not very good at grading. Good luck.As to what TPG to use,if you want a MS66 then use ICG. If you want a truer grade then NGC,for a better resale price then PCGS. Don't over look ANACS they are good.
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 Posted 05/23/2016  08:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ChildOfTheWheat to your friends list
ANACS IS good, and cheap (hehehe)

Could you post better pics of your coin, say one with luster showing?
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 Posted 05/23/2016  11:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jimmyjohns7724 to your friends list
John1, that ms68 is actually the Sonoran Monsoon MS68 from Heritage that sold. It was graded by PCGS. Heritage is usually the Pictures I compare grades to only because ebay pictures and others tend to show less details to make the sale. Looking over ebay listings though, I wouldn't be completely surprised at a possibility of getting a 65 though. I also read that ICG tends to undergrade more than overgrade their coins? I've never used them so I just go on what I read for now. ChildOfWheat, I will make attempts to get a picture with full luster but haven't had much luck with exposure and the shine to get anything of quality with Silver coins. It has a great cartwheel and full luster... besides the small scratch in the polishing under the Y of course.
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that ms68 is actually the Sonoran Monsoon MS68 from Heritage that sold. It was graded by PCGS.
I am very surprise it is a PCGS.
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 Posted 05/23/2016  12:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jimmyjohns7724 to your friends list
Ya life's full of surprises. That one sold for a bit under $5k actually. Again, I think Ike's are graded a bit differently than the miniscule details of a small cent. Silver, being a softer composition already, is bound to have a nick here or there. I'm pretty sure it all depends how it takes away from the overall eye appeal. Either way it probably is a 65-66 the more I look at it but that could also be added pessimistic opinions weighing in. We shall see.
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 Posted 05/23/2016  1:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jimmyjohns7724 to your friends list
This is a direct comparison of that MS68 from PCGS. Notice the overall sharpness of the Strike on all of the devices and extra definition in the hair. Not to mention the similar scratch to the field under the Y. The Reverse is a no brainier as mine goes without a single mark. Solid definition in the craters. And the MS68 has multiple scratches and Nick's in the devices. There's a huge one in comparison on the breast of the eagle that takes away attention to the weak struck right wing and highly visable scratch under the 2nd T in STATES. Luster will be the deciding factor here IMO.

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The Reverse is a no brainier as mine goes without a single mark.

Just at a glance I see a number of noticeable marks in the fields on your coin.
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 Posted 05/23/2016  5:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jimmyjohns7724 to your friends list
The tiny ones under the left wing? Not noticeable to the naked eye. This was shot through a 10x loupe. Again, not implying it will come back a 68. However if it's a 65, I'll be shocked.
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 Posted 05/23/2016  6:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list
I am not pessimistic....I just call em like I see em.

"65'ish" means it could go anywhere from 64 to 66 based on what I could see in two photos. I feel that any of the big 3 grading services (PCGS, NGC or ANACS) would render a grade in that range. If I had the coin in-hand, and weighed in factors not visible in two photos, then I might have a different opinion. Factors such as lighting, viewing angles, and eye appeal cannot be judged in photos.

Please let us know how it grades. Good luck!
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 Posted 05/23/2016  6:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jimmyjohns7724 to your friends list
Ya photos of any quality make it hard to judge. It shows on a 68 from PCGS that clearly looks flawed. In hand, maybe it's a completely different story. I'm not great with grading and appreciate the input either way I mean he'll, a 65 is still decent for a silver Ike. It'll be of value for my son if not for me so oh well. I'm not saying anybody is wrong or right, it's just a good learning experience for all of us to judge photo grades better and myself to judge in hand appeal of a coin this large. Thanks guys it's boxed up for ANACS in the morning. I will be sure to let everyone know how it goes either way.
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