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1776 Contintental Silver Coin?

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 Posted 06/21/2008  08:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnnydee to your friends list
If you look at a coin over 200 years old under a magnifier how would it look like?THANKS
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 Posted 06/21/2008  12:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1sikevo to your friends list
It's been 4 months since your first post and you're still trying to determine the authenticity of your coin ?
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 Posted 06/21/2008  10:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnnydee to your friends list
Do you have a problem with me asking question?1sikevo
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 Posted 06/21/2008  11:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add halfabustisbetter to your friends list
This seems like it's going in the direction of the 'If you have to ask, you don't really want to know' type of question. I have subscribed to this topic, waiting for a response from you that you've taken the next logical step in having your coin authenticated, i.e. sending it to a grading service. Is that going to happen, do you think? It doesn't seem like you're getting the answer you want on the internet.
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 Posted 06/21/2008  11:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnnydee to your friends list
No I don't have a problem with people's opinion I just can't stand some of the negativity with some people's answers, after all were all here to help each other out.thanks
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 Posted 06/22/2008  12:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Steamwalker to your friends list
A higher resolution photo would be nice too.
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 Posted 06/22/2008  02:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list

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No I don't have a problem with people's opinion I just can't stand some of the negativity with some people's answers, after all were all here to help each other out.thanks

I don't think I would be complaining about other peoples negativity.


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Sorry but that is a cast fake. And yes there were a LOT of fake Continental dollars made around the time of the centennial and for decades afterward. For every genuine coin there are literally tens of thousands of fakes. The genuine were well made coins which were professionally engraved. The rings on the reverse were strong, even and well formed, not rough and ragged as seen on your coin.

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You have a right to your opinion, but if you have done a little bit of research you would have known that the machine wear(sic) quite crude and man power(ed).There is also proof that the original were offset and and rough and ragged to me that would make more sense than your explanation I think that the counterfeit would have been more like what you are talking about.Your talking about a coin that was made in a critical war time but thanks for your opinion.
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06/22/2008 02:14 am
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 Posted 06/22/2008  06:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add onejinx to your friends list
I also have one of these coins laying around here somewhere. But I sure don't think mine is real because if I did, it would have been shipped out to a TPG (and I dislike TPG's) a long time ago.

Johnny, I don't think anyone has been trying to be negative. You asked for peoples opinions and got them, you may not like then but they are just opinions. You just seem to not want to take the advice that has been given to you. If you still think the coin is real, you can send it to PCGS and use their new "GENUINE" service for $100 + shipping and they will authenticate your coin.



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 Posted 06/22/2008  12:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1sikevo to your friends list
Johnnydee,

I'm not a negative person at all. If you read my other posts, I'm very open to new discoveries.
But you are the one that is stubborn. You keep asking people about possible authenticity but refuse to do it yourself by submitting it to a TPG. You keep ignoring all reasonable advises and opinions but keep insisting that your coin is real, even though you have not taken any steps to get it verified independently by experts.

We are not haters. You asked for opinions and you have it. As much as you wanted to hear oohs and aahs, you should also be open to constructive critics. The ball has been in your court to show the doubters beyond a reasonable doubt that your coin is genuine but all you have done is prolong the mystery and attack anyone who cast doubt. Look at the guy with the silver 1972 quarter. He quickly had it verified that it was genuine and no one has had any questions regarding it' authenticity since then.
It's time to put up or shut up.
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 Posted 06/29/2008  11:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnnydee to your friends list
We have people here that say that their are not expert on coins, but are willing to give you their opinion but when you give them a question that they can't answer they start writing rude comments or tell you to send it to have your coin verified.

People if you don't like my question or comments than you have right not to answer my question, not to re-post quotes "NICE" move very professional, as far as put up or shut up!why don't you grow up!I have no problem with constructive critics, if being stubborn is willing to do a little bit of history on the subject than guilty. If you don't know the answer to my question than it is probably better not to answer my questions or at least have the common decency to be respectful of other peoples opinion and to be encouraging .I will send it to have it verified when I am ready. Thanks


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 Posted 06/29/2008  11:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add halfabustisbetter to your friends list
Well, I'm actually saying that I am an expert on coins. It's one of the few things I know a lot about. In my expert opinion, based on the pictures and information you've provided, I've concluded that your coin is a replica. You should consider it a replica as well unless you can somehow get an industry-recognized expert to certify it as genuine. It doesn't have to be a third-party grading company--it can be any expert with credentials in the field. I assume that what you mean when you say that you will "send it to have it verified" when you are ready means when you are ready to hear the truth from an acknowledged expert.
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 Posted 06/30/2008  10:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnnydee to your friends list
Thanks for your expert opinion,with your experience what would the texture look like under a microscope, any other information you can think of about the coin would be appreciated, thanks
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 Posted 06/30/2008  11:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add halfabustisbetter to your friends list
Coin textures vary from coin to coin depending on factors like age, storage environment, etc. etc. You can see for yourself what the texture looks like under a microscope by placing your coin under a microscope. There's no single answer. However, a cast counterfeit will usually appear grainier than a genuine coin and will not exhibit anomalies generally associated with striking (e.g., die clashes and breaks). Evidence of striking is one key to determining authenticity, but not the only one.
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 Posted 07/01/2008  12:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnnydee to your friends list
THANK YOU!
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 Posted 07/01/2008  12:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinguybrian to your friends list
Yeah, genuine examples are extremely rare, so that is why it should be assumed fake until proven otherwise.

Red Book is 7000 for Pewter in G

I'd actually like to own an authentic one, SOME day....
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