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Valued Member
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ThaT is quite a BEAUTY!  Best of Luck with it and please keep us informed on it. Gussyboy1  |
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United States
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Congratulations Prethen. That is one fine score.
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United States
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Amazing coin.  with 1sikevo about the denticles, they're too weak to be proof. |
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FYI...as I learned myself recently, the denticles can NOT be used to determine if it's a Proof or not. Believe it or not, the Mint evidently pressed these things out with a single strike sometimes and sometimes without enough pressure to raise all the details...BUT they used Proof dies and intended those pieces as Proofs. Yeah, I know...what the heck! That's why it can be difficult to near impossible to tell the type of strike on these things. If it circulated too much, unless there's a crystal clear diagnostic, forget about it.
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Prethen, another great acquisition for the undisputed king of the Three Cent Nickel collectors. I congratulate and salute you sir! |
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Just an absolutely beautiful coin. I'd get it into plastic also
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United States
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Way to go Prethen! Sounds like your specialized knowledge paid off big! Congratulations.
When I need a 3CN expert I know who to contact.
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United States
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Bruce, I have to agree that your coin was probably prepared as a business strike. I have compared most of my 3¢'s edges an can see no differences between some business strikes and proofs. If proof dies were used for business strikes then I would assume the same collar in the press would also be used. If that is the case then it would be virtually impossible to distinguish one from the other with the exception of mirrors on the coin and planchet preperation. If the proof dies were not maintained or repolished during striking the mirrors would disappear and one could consider it a business strike or could you. A person could surmise that without specific die markers on a coin die that it could be either a proof or business strike. Certain proof dies had die markers that make verification easy and others don't. Planchet preperation would have a lot more to do with attribution of a proof vs business strike than the die would if some proof dies were used to also strike business strikes. I know that proof planchets were specially prepared and business strike planchets were normally prepared. If proof dies were used for all business strikes for a particular year, then wouldn't they all be considered proofs and none as business strikes. Terminology and interpretation is all there is left.
Like I told you before, Some known facts raise a lot more questions than answers.
Gary
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Unfortunately, John Dannreuther has taken some time to investigate this coin (in hand) and has determined that it's a mid-state Proof die (with a known rotation). This is a serious bummer. I've been in touch with the seller prior to his final analysis and they're okay with and aware that it will be coming back to them. I can't wait to get that final part over with and hopefully I won't hit any glitches for the return.
I even told John, this will likely be the last time I attempt to buy a raw 1884-1885 3CN. I can't imagine any decent AU raw ones exist any more that aren't already in strong hands. I have serious doubts I'll ever be able to own/afford either of those two coins.
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Sorry to hear that Bruce.
Another reason I will only buy key/rare coins certified.
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Sorry to hear that Bruce.
Another reason I will only buy key/rare coins certified.
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04/25/2008 2:57 pm
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It's still a nice coin. Just not what you're looking for I guess. Better luck next time.
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CoinGeek: It's a nice coin if you're looking to overpay by 2-3X for a circulated Proof. So, I'd have to disagree, it's not a nice coin at even half the price.
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