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New Member
 Mexico
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Sorry how do you know if my coin is real or fake
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CCF Advertiser
United States
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Its got a raised rim, so it was struck in a collar, which was not used in the US until the 1830's. It could also have been poured into a mold. Either way, I'm afraid its a fake.
Look at billjones' pictures, see how the denticles go all the way to the rim. Thats how a coin looks when struck without a collar.
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03/30/2017 1:28 pm
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Yep, the coin screams fake to me.
Unfortunetly, this coin is undoubtably a fake.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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It is also struck from a "vampire" hubbed die.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1499 Posts |
Yes, a counterfeit, probably made by our "friends" in China.
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New Member
United States
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All, We're cleaning out my aunts estate and found this 1795 draped bust dollar. I looked at many different sites and it seems that it's a very popular counterfeit. Any thoughts on this one? It's got some slashes across the front and the photos aren't the best, but perhaps you all can give some advice on it. The coin was in a box with five draped bust halfs and some other odds and ends. The only coins she really collected were pennies so this one just seems out of place. Any thoughts would be richly appreciated. Thank you.   |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Quote: T308: Your coin looks pretty darn good in those images and I am cautiously optimistic that it is genuine and very valuable. I'll take a closer look in the morning and post again. Be careful with it and welcome to CCF! |
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New Member
United States
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 This image shows the slash marks better. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Quote:
This image shows the slash marks better. Some of those could be adjustment marks from the mint but the greater concern is the authenticity of the coin. Here's your coin above a genuine 1795 Draped Bust (off-center bust) Small Eagle reverse in PCGS XF45. Do you have a coin shop or coin dealer in your area? Your coin could easily be worth several thousand USD once authenticated. I see nothing that screams fake but it requires an expert in-hand evaluation.  |
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CCF Advertiser
United States
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All those slashes are mint made adjustment marks. The coin looks authentic and appears to be an XF-40 O/C Small Eagle Dollar. I'd send it to PCGS or NGC to authenticate it, but it may be worth around $6,000.
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New Member
United States
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Wow, I'm totally gobsmacked. Thank you very much for your advice. When I saw those slashes I thought it had been defaced (there's a beautiful 1825 half dollar that has the "50 C" scraped off so I thought it was just another damaged misfit). All the proceeds from the estate will be going to charity so there will be some happy kids!
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I have this Chinese fake - top and found this real "off center bust" image - bottom It appears most of the fakes I have seen copy the off center bust variety. Notice a few differences. thicker strands of hair, claws, berries, misshaped stars, blunt shaped leaf ends.   |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Here's a counterfeit 1795 that I have for comparison:   Edited by Darth Morgan
04/16/2017 3:22 pm
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Valued Member
United States
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I can't imagine dropping 2 grand or more on a fake. I'd rather pay a little more for a certified Bust Dollar and spare myself the anxiety. On the other hand, I think it is possible to buy a raw coin from someone that you trust and look for the warning signs nicely outlined here.
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