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I think the original organizer of this thread had decided to count all those "X one fine mark" comments as weights rather than denominations - the way some 19th and 20th century coins would mention that they contained X grams (or other units, e.g. in Russia) of pure silver.
They're certainly neat, though!
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@j1m, thanks for pointing that out ... I got lazy and missed that comment from WAY upthread. 13 is already on the list, with a 13 nasri coin of Tunisia. I just discovered that a coin in my collection I had labellled as a grossetto of Papal States - Ferrara is equivalent to 13 quattrini, which is the denomination actually on the coin (in the exergue obv):  |
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Very neat! I think I found this type and its double version (26 quattrini) while looking through an Italian coin database a few months ago, but forgot to mention it in the thread.
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Indeed! sometime in the 4 years between these posts, I picked up that 26 quattrini coin:  Also ... Not a new figure for the list, but an interesting one in how it's spelled out. A 32 quattrini coin of the Duchy of Urbino, spelled out as "doi sedicine" or "two sixteens." https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=13082284 (yes, there was also a one "sedicine" coin). In the currency system of the time (circa 1600 as the coin is undated, but was struck between 1584 and 1624) I believe the equivalents were 1 scudo = 100 baiocchi = 500 quattrini, so it would have been the equivalent of 6.4 cents (baiocchi). There was a similarly sized 30 quattrini coin, so possibly the 32 quattrini followed the 30 (i.e. devaluation/inflation). Edited by tdziemia
02/20/2025 06:28 am
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I don't have the time at the moment to read all 14 pages, so not sure if you have the - August 1923 German Notgeld (Hamburg) ½ Million Mark on the list. Edit to add: Yep, it is on the list as 500,000 Million Marks..   |
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Indeed! sometime in the 4 years between these posts, I picked up that 26 quattrini coin: Fantastic!  |
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Looking back on this thread, I was shocked to see that the last "roundup" of denominations was in 2017! Given how comprehensive that list was, it's hard to imagine that there could be more, but ... I recently found a denomination of a coin from the Duchy of Urbino which is "due terzi da sedicine" which translates to two thirds of sixteen, or 10 2/3. https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=2776670 Now ... you can ask "two thirds of sixteen WHAT?" and the plot thickens further, because the answer is ... (drum roll ... ) quattrini!! So the face value on the coin was 10 2/3 quattrini So, folks who know early Italian coinage think "Ah, wasn't a quattrino equal to 4 denari? So that would also make this coin a 42 2/3 denari coin which is also missing from the list? (kind of like saying a "quarter" is actually 25 cents). But wait! There's more! By the 1500s in central Italy where this coin was made, the currency system was no longer denaro-soldo-lira, but was migrating to quattrino-baiocco-scudo. There is evidence that in Urbino at this time there were 18 sedicine (or 288 quattrini) to a scudo. when this coin was made, so that would make it a 1/27 scudo. Take your pick (10 2/3 or 1/27) ... it gets added to the list one way or the other. Edited by tdziemia
02/23/2025 9:26 pm
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Looking back on this thread, I was shocked to see that the last "roundup" of denominations was in 2017! DL20K hadn't been seen on CCF since 2017 as far as I can tell. I wonder what happened to them. |
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I recently found a denomination of a coin from the Duchy of Urbino which is "due terzi da sedicine" which translates to two thirds of sixteen... Amazing! Thank you for sharing.  |
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DL20K hadn't been seen on CCF since 2017 as far as I can tell. I wonder what happened to them. DL20K created GTP, I took over in Season 2.  I do hope he is okay and life just took him in other directions. My last email from him was in May 2017 when we were discussing some new topic ideas, one of which was HFBCWG for banknotes. I need to bump that one.  |
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One last coin with an interesting denomination from the Duchy of Urbino: 288.  Copyright Fritz Rudolf Kuenker The obverse legend of this coin has been translated as "Coin of 18 sedicine" (literally coin of twenty minus two sixteens). 18 times 16 is 288, so the face value of this coin is 288 quattrinos. Thank god the decimal system came along!  |
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One last coin with an interesting denomination from the Duchy of Urbino: 288. Very nice! Quote:Thank god the decimal system came along! Or more reasonable heads.  |
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Edited by MachinMachinMan
05/07/2025 11:45 pm
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Nice coin MMM. I received this one recently. 1921 Cyprus 4 1/2 piastres. I hadn't seen one of these previously.  |
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Nice examples! |
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