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Rare 50 Pfennig Bank Deutschers"J" "9"

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 Posted 08/12/2016  5:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add UltraRant to your friends list
The 1950G originally has just 30.000 coins struck.

Some more info about German coins and (partially) missing dates on coins (in German, from 2004): http://www.numismatikforum.de/viewt...?f=13&t=5835

Some notable quotes:


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es kommt immer wieder vor, nicht nur bei 50 Pf. Stücken, dass Teile oder gar die komplette Jahreszahl nicht geprägt werden. Deshalb gehe ich davon aus, dass auch BDL 50 Pfennig Münzen mit diesen Fehlern behaftet sind.


"It happens over again, not just with 50 Pfennig coins, that parts or even the whole date isn't minted. I therefore assume, that also Bank Deutscher Länder 50 Pfennig coins contain such errors."


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50 Pfennig Bank Deutscher Länder ohne Jahreszahl sind bekannt und kommen sehr häufig vor.


"50 Pfennig Bank Deutsche Länder without a year are known coins and appear very frequent."

About the value:


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wie gesagt kommt diese Verprägung sehr häufig vor daher kann man schon einen Durchschnittspreis ermittelt. Diese Stücke werden in der Regel mit 5 € gehandelt, manchmal (selten) auch bis zu 10.
Zu DM-Zeiten bekam man sie übrigens noch für 5 DM.


"As said, these errors appear so often that an average value can be calculated. These coins are, in general, sold for 5€, but also (seldom) up to €10.
In the Deutschmark-era, you could buy these for 5 DM."

This is info from 2004, so just 3 years after the introduction of the Euro. I guess inflation and so have added a bit to the price. Don't expect to become a millionaire now, though... Also, 1949J is the most common 1949 50 Pfennig coin, about 42.000.000 were struck.

If you had a 1949J with Bundesrepublik Deutschland instead of Bank deutscher Länder, you would actually be on your way to become a millionaire now, as only 7 of these coins are known.
Edited by UltraRant
08/12/2016 5:56 pm
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 Posted 08/13/2016  2:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Beefy to your friends list
In bad condition mine is worth 750, mines in almost perfect condition so what would mine be valued at.
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 Posted 08/13/2016  2:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DL20K to your friends list
UltraRant thank you for elaborating on the commonness of such coins. I didn't know such coins existed but then I never pursued this area. Would they be considered errors, or were they also restruck like the 1950G?
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 Posted 08/13/2016  3:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Beefy to your friends list
Mines 1949 j date "9" coin, bank deutschers Lander.
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 Posted 08/13/2016  7:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Beefy to your friends list
Can no one help me answer MY question..? I just wanna know what my coin would be valued at, not everyone turn this into they"re post. Thanks community.
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 Posted 08/14/2016  3:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add UltraRant to your friends list
well, if you actually read my answer to your post, it's below 10 euro...
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 Posted 08/15/2016  10:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Beefy to your friends list
Maybe I want a different opinion because my coin is rare..i can't even find one online besides mine, the value is at 750$ USD is decent condition, so your answer is invalid to me. Maybe you didn't read right.
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 Posted 08/15/2016  11:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DL20K to your friends list
http://www.ebay.de/itm/50-Pfennig-S...047675.l2557

25 euros sold.
Same mintmark, also only "9" visible.

http://www.ebay.de/itm/50-Pfennig-F...047675.l2557

56.55 euros sold.
Same mintmark, no date visible at all

http://www.ebay.at/itm/50-Pfennig-B...AOSwcL5XNNO-

11.18 euros sold.
Same mintmark, scratched but no date visible at all

It's not as unique as you may think.
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 Posted 08/15/2016  1:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Beefy to your friends list
Lol ok so in the first pic other numbers are scratched out, when I said mine has "j" and "9" I meant that that is how it was made not people scratched out the darn date, *** Edited by Staff | The bad word filter is in place for a reason. Bypassing the filter and making the intended word obvious anyway is completely unacceptable. *** you think your smart and I appreciate the advice, but you need to do more research I assure you, I was just trying to get an opinion, I've already done plenty of research including the books, have a good day sir.
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 Posted 08/15/2016  2:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add UltraRant to your friends list
As said, and I DO know my German coins and I AM fluent in German: date errors on coins were EXTREMELY common in the period just after the War. Parts of the date or even the whole date gone missing, it was not uncommon. As such, the value of such coins is, in Germany, not high. 10€, I stick with my earlier conclusion, also because millions and millions of J coins have been struck.

So, you ask us for an opinion, you get one and then get angry because it's not what you want to hear. Oh well. Good luck on getting this one sold at 'at least $750'. I pity the fool who actually pays that much. Good day to you, too.

ps. If you want to be so smart, it's 'you're smart', not 'your smart'.
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 Posted 08/15/2016  2:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list
Beefy, a negative attitude is not going to get you far on this forum. People here are more than willing to help. You asked a question and it was answered. You will get more help by being respectful, if you can't be your more than welcome to go someplace else. Consider this your one and only warning.
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 Posted 08/15/2016  7:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Beefy to your friends list
On a coin forum, dude please yall wanna team up on me because I stated facts and voiced my opinion, I dont need a warning, I never said one bad thing to him, sorry one of "you're" coin forum buddies got in his feelings, and my phone sucks so sorry I dont care to change any set spell check my phone has.
Good day.
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 Posted 08/15/2016  9:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Heavington to your friends list

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you think your smart



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I never said one bad thing to him


Okay, go up to your boss and say that, see if he would consider that to not be a bad thing.


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On a coin forum, dude please yall wanna team up on me because I stated facts and voiced my opinion



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Maybe I want a different opinion


If you want to be able to voice your opinions you should not be belittling others' opinions, ESPECIALLY when you ask for opinions.


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08/15/2016 9:22 pm
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 Posted 08/16/2016  2:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add UltraRant to your friends list
One last attempt.

Here's the overview of the most valuable modern German coins, as given by sammler.com. Those guys have been around for 20 years and know what they're talking about. It's in German, but Google Translate does a proper job. As you can see, a Bank Deutsche Lander coin with a partially or wholly missing date is NOT on this list. Only a 1949 J with 'Bundesrepublik Deutschland' instead of 'Bank Deutsche Lander' would be worth a fortune.

http://www.sammler.com/mz/die-wertv...pfennige.htm
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 Posted 08/16/2016  4:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list
I don't see where anyone has teamed up against you. And I can assure you as a moderator I have no favoritism towards any member. I am sorry if you felt that way. You asked a question and several members answered your question with honest and knowledgeable answers. You weren't satisfied with their answers and your replies were less than civil. It is one thing to disagree, but another to be rude in doing so. And you my friend walked on that that line. A civil and honest debate is welcomed here. This is a family friendly forum with many expert collectors with years of experience willing to help. A degree of respect should be afforded them, in turn they will be respectful to you also.
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