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Pennies Anyone? This Is Quite A Lot.

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 Posted 08/29/2016  1:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pokermandude to your friends list
Listings with more story than substance always turn me off. Not to mention the overuse of the term "key date".

Over 800,000 small cents alone. That's an impossible "collection" to sell intact. He'd have been much, much better off buying almost anything else, in my humble opinion.

It sounds like he enjoyed hoarding them, so it's not a total loss.
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 Posted 08/29/2016  1:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pokermandude to your friends list
On second thought, this almost belongs in the recent "shouldn't this be scrap?" thread. Melt value of about $16k.
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 Posted 08/29/2016  1:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list
Now that TD has abandon their coinstar machines, it would cost about 10% fees just to deposit
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 Posted 08/29/2016  1:29 pm  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list
I will guarantee there is nothing rare or off beat in those pennies as far as either Condition or possible errors. While Real was willing to pay a quarter for a 1937 penny and a Dollar for a 1948 nickel that was about it.
The late Jim Morgan of Van Isle Coin in Victoria once had a small part of the Eatons Department Store of BU rolls that included most dates from 1937 to 1956 . He offered original rolls for sale to Bergevin. Sold him nary a one.
I was fortunate enough to acquire a nice little hoard of 1948 rolls one time out of a US coin show. BU cents and Nickels about five rolls of nickels and a dozen or so Cent rolls. Not a one went to this hoard.
In the industry this is known as a " Poormans Hoard ". Definition anything acquired for face or a very very tiny premium.
Pokermandude has it nailed !
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 Posted 08/29/2016  2:35 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list
Hoards like this, are for Zoell variety hunters... they can be fun to sift through, if that is what you want to do with your time. If they are original, they can be a fun thing to do in this hobby (thrill of the hunt).

After the local dealers told this gentleman to "take his coins to the bank", I bought his large lot (200+ lbs) of pre-1960 pennies from a hoarder here in Ottawa. I paid 1.5 times face and went through the entire lot. There was a 1923, several 1926 and 1930 pennies, and a 1955 NSF in that hoard, but I mostly made my money by putting the George V and George VI coins (random mix of dates) into rolls, and selling them to local flea market dealers here in Ottawa $1 a roll for George VI and $5 a roll for George V (after I had gone through them for Zoell varieties and doubled dates). The photo of that hoard is below, and not a single coin was newer than 1960.

Pennies-Anyone?--This-Is-Quite-A-Lot.

I also bought a similar 250 lbs lot of 5c coins from the same hoarder, paying 1.5 times face. All the low grade nickel coins were sold to Hub City Coins (as bullion, 10% over face) I found a 1925 and several 1932 far 2 coins, and I also found a 1954 NSF. Again, local flea market dealers bought the rolls of tombacs and George V nickels ($10 per roll).

In the end - I learned about Zoell varieties, stocked my binders with decent pre-1950 AU and MS-60 to -63 coins, and learned a bit more about grading EF and AU coins. If you do not count my time, I made my money back several times over. But - at 1.5 times face I really had nothing to lose.
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 Posted 08/29/2016  2:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinsarecool to your friends list
The same seller is selling "1954 Canada Copper Cent - circulated TOP KEY DATE". When did 1954 become a TOP KEY DATE?!?!?!?
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 Posted 08/29/2016  4:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Talonbat to your friends list
I had a similar situation to SPP-Ottawa's story in the beginning of the year although I found much less rare stuff. I wish I could find buyers for $10 cash a roll of george V nickels, selling the common rolls on ebay is annoying with the weight and size. From my experience he prices listed on this ebay auction are ridiculously high. Searching through all of the coins has helped my grading skills as well as variety recognition as well so I definitely feel it was worth it, although time consuming.
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 Posted 08/29/2016  4:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SHAFTA9a to your friends list
Wouldn't even interest me, he's not going to get what he's asking IMO
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 Posted 08/29/2016  8:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add otto to your friends list

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"shouldn't this be scrap?" thread. Melt value of about $16k.


Is melting copper cents legal in Canada? I've heard it's not in U.S. Not sure about other alloys.
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 Posted 08/29/2016  8:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add o-train to your friends list
The amount of time and energy this would take is enormous. We are basically looking at this man's life in the form of coins. Both impressive and cautionary. I hope he has found peace with whatever prompted him to amass such a collection.
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 Posted 08/29/2016  8:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wildflowerAB to your friends list

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I hope he has found peace with whatever prompted him to amass such a collection.



I do as well. I wonder if at one time he had a plan to use the pennies for some type of grand creative project, that never came to pass.

I'm reminded of the Glass House in BC, built with 500,000 embalming fluid bottles.
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 Posted 08/29/2016  8:56 pm  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list
Knowing Real , .............. He had a blast. This hoard is living proof that you can do coins any way you wish. There is no right or wrong way to accumulate , hoard or collect. THAT is the fun of our great hobby. If you desire 1937 cents fine. If you love Buffalo nickels , great . Want to hoard Morgan's even better!
There is another guy in Victoria who has a great hoard of hundreds of 1908 5 Cent Silvers including Large and Small 8 as well as at least a dozen Specimens. His Grandfather was born that year. The second part of the hoard is about Five hundred 1925 nickels , many in super condition ExF to MS63. As I recall the significance was that was the year the family came to Canada. Now that's a good use of ADHD. Why buy one when hundreds will do!
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 Posted 08/29/2016  10:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wildflowerAB to your friends list

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Now that's a good use of ADHD. Why buy one when hundreds will do!


I suppose buying only the same thing over and over has it's advantages in terms of limited options - but for sure the problem arises, after the first 100 or 500 or 2000, what's 1 or 100 more. Imelda Marcos probably thought the same of her shoes!
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 Posted 08/30/2016  2:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petersun to your friends list
Already overpriced. Buyer still has to pay for shipping.
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 Posted 09/01/2016  11:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coin Chick to your friends list
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How many 1932 fars did You find?
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