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Valued Member
United States
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i don't mind a lincoln coin..i just wish it were not a 1 cent piece that costs more than it's worth to create...useless
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United States
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quote: It might be just me, but I feel that the the glorification of Lincoln is quite disturbing.
I used to feel a little that way myself, having grown up in Illinois where Honest Abe and his deeds are spoon fed to every school child ad nauseum, but having studied our history more thoroughly since then, I've come to think that Lincoln deserves what he gets. He did save the union, and it is the union that makes us what we are. It's certainly possible that whoever was at the helm when the ship of state needed saving might have done the same thing, but since it was Lincoln, let's let him have the glory. Besides, I'd rather glorify Abe Lincoln than some recent presidents, whom history will judge correctly as extremely poor and maybe even dangerous leaders.  Jan 
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United States
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Oh -- and I like the new coin ideas. The more new coins, the merrier, I say.
jk
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United States
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I think President Lincoln deserves all the credit he gets, I thinks he deserves more. I think as a President he was a very close second to Washington. If not for Lincoln some coin collectors would be collecting Jefferson Davis cents.
I like the new coin ideas, I agree with janknez the more the merrier.
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United States
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Confederate currency is highly collectible.
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Australia
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G'day JHS: "Confederate currency is highly collectible." - indeed it is, but not a lot of it was minted after 1865. It would be interesting to know what discussions preceded the introduction of the Lincoln Cent in 1909: there would have been plenty of survivors still alive, and feelings would still have been quite raw. Peter in Oz (born in a city visited by the C.S.S. Shenandoah)
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United States
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I'd like to see them replicate the 1909 VDB reverse as one of their 2009 commemoratives. Some interesting comments about Lincoln though. Abe appeared on the $5 demand notes of 1861-65 & the $10 legal tender issue 1862-63, but both were out of production by the end of the civil war. He then reappeared on the fifty cent fractional note of 1869-75, the $100 legal tender note of 1869-80, the $500 gold certificate of 1882, the "porthole" $5 silver certificate of 1923, the $5 federal reserve banknote of 1915 & 1918, and the $5 federal reserve note of 1914. In 1928 he appeared on the $5 legal tender note that is pretty similar to today's $5 federal reserve note.
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Valued Member
United States
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One Red Cent, I am in complete agreement with you on the original reverse. I wrote the director of the mint about two years ago suggesting that option--naturally, no reply-- even if it was a coin for collectors only and not released for circulation. Another thing which should be done is to restore the portrait of Lincoln to the original concept. Whats this you say? Compare a 1909 high grade cent with a recent cent and the recent portrait is almost a caricature of the original.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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quote: I wrote the director of the mint about two years ago suggesting that option--
Actually, the Director of the Mint(currently Edmund Moy) doesn't really have much input on actual coin designs. The CCAC and Congress are the influential factors in design. http://www.ccac.gov/index.cfm
Edited by biokemist6 03/10/2008 12:07 pm
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United States
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Lincoln, Washington, Franklin-- All these men were good men, who did good for their country, but they were men, frail and flawed as men are. What we honor is their contributions and the ideals they represent, whether they were as great as we'd like to think or not. Lincoln represent honesty and unity.
He is the national representation of such. We don't want to worship men, but aspire to ideals. I think this is one of the reasons there is a federal law against putting a live president's image on a coin-- then there is danger in confusing admiration of an ideal with worship of a man.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Why must a president be honored forever on a coin? Look at our circulating coinage now. Each coin has had the same face for decades. Haven't then been honored long enough?
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United States
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quote: Lincoln, Washington, Franklin-- All these men were good men, who did good for their country, but they were men, frail and flawed as men are. What we honor is their contributions and the ideals they represent, whether they were as great as we'd like to think or not. Lincoln represent honesty and unity.
He is the national representation of such. We don't want to worship men, but aspire to ideals. I think this is one of the reasons there is a federal law against putting a live president's image on a coin-- then there is danger in confusing admiration of an ideal with worship of a man.
VERY well said. 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Honor/Respect/ideals they stood for/accomplishments for their country..........all wonderful reasons to "immortalize these LEGENDS & GIANTS of the United States on our coinage & paper money"..... but I stop short of the word "worship".....that's certainly an exaggeration, nor would I say that's a reason we've "stuck with" certain Presidents on certain coins for so long.....They aren't Gods.......just remarkable people who deserve historical and current recognition..
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United States
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Justcarl said: I've heard that after the 2009 the Government is considering putting Bush's head on the Cent. I know everyone will say that is for decessed presidents only. So is that a problem for the CIA then?" Seems to me that it is a good possibility, the "dead presidents". His head is on the "chopping block", as we speak, so who can say he will not be "dead", even if he is actually "dead in the water"? The possibility of a return for the 2009 cent, to the original alloy, will make it so heavily sought after, that it will not very likely survive, to see actual circulation as "another cent", no matter what the cost to mint it. Dick
Edited by livingdinasaur 03/10/2008 2:10 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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quote: If not for Lincoln some coin collectors would be collecting Jefferson Davis cents.
And what would the problem be with that? quote: The possibility of a return for the 2009 cent, to the original alloy, will make it so heavily sought after, that it will not very likely survive, to see actual circulation as "another cent", no matter what the cost to mint it.
The 2009 cents struck in the original alloy are NOT intended to circulate. The law calls for the original alloy cents for numismatic sales purposes. Inother words the mint can have sets with circulation alloy, original alloy, or both. (That's three different possible sets!) There are SO many ways the mint can parlay these designs and alloys into dozens of differnt sets it is frightening.
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