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Greek Coin (4) For Interpretation And Discussion

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 Posted 09/08/2016  8:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jaztal to your friends list
@Biancasdad thanks for your informative participation and I only find it hard to unbdestand the crude statements that do not make any sense by some members.

I respect disagreements as far as the same is justified.
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 Posted 09/08/2016  8:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jaztal to your friends list
@echizento thanks again... 5he metal is undoutedly silver and the weight and diameters are very accurate and precize. Again, why would an imitator to commet such a big mistake regarding weight, diameters or mold!! Hold your horses guys it's not a matter of $$$$ but rather a history and heritage.
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 Posted 09/08/2016  8:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list
If you take a look at the real example you can see how crudely your coin looks compared to it. If you have a magnet I would like to hear if the coin sticks to it. Also these coins are not molded they are struck from dies. Lastly why would anyone want to fakes these is easy to answer. In your part of the World these are made to sell to unsuspecting tourist as the real thing.
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 Posted 09/08/2016  8:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jaztal to your friends list
@echizento I find it hard to understand why you consider a specific example as real and authintic but the other is not? Is it because which coin popped up first? What if my coin was published first?

Moreover, try your best to avoid stereotyping in respet of specific parts of the world! Are your a streotyping regionalist in a way or another? Let me tell that my part of the world is where the civilization came from to all over the world. So revert to history that seems you ate not fully aware of and watch your words from now on.

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 Posted 09/08/2016  8:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list

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metal is undoubtedly silver


@yaz, can you please comment on which test you have performed to determine the silver content? Are you certain that it is silver? I ask because there are some metal alloys that are silver colored, but do not contain actual silver metal (as was used on the genuine coins). While these other alloys might be the same silver color, their density is different from silver. This is why the mass is so important: a fake coin will be the correct color, diameter, and thickness, but physically cannot be the correct mass as the original.
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 Posted 09/08/2016  8:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add otto to your friends list

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my part of the world is where the civilization came from


True. We are taught this in our schools.
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 Posted 09/08/2016  8:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add PhoenicianX to your friends list
I'm going to have to agree with the others..the details are far too crude to be considered authentic

Unfortunately Echizento has a point, in "our" part of the world, they do tend to sell such coins to unsuspecting tourists as the real thing.. a quick trip to most of the major touristic sites there would confirm such a statement and I've personally experienced it.. He was simply stating a fact and his intent was not too offend
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 Posted 09/08/2016  9:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jaztal to your friends list
@spence I took the coin to a lab and they advised thats it is silver. I have hundreds if not thousands of coins within my collection and I never cleaned any of them. However, I should again investigate the nature of the metal and revert soon with precise answer in this respect. Thanks for your valuable input.
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 Posted 09/08/2016  9:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list

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I took the coin to a lab and they advised thats it is silver.


Ok that is good information! Do you know what type of test was performed? Was it X-ray Fluorescence (XRF)? As you might guess, it is important to determine the alloy below the surface as it could be plated with good silver. Also, did the lab look for residual elements as well?
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb

"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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 Posted 09/08/2016  9:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jaztal to your friends list
@PhoenicianX hold your horses too!! It seems you are playing the role of a too Nobel person to be true!!

@spence you are now in parallel and I will answer your questions soon regarding the advanced tests you mentioned. However, to which extent your suggested tests are helpful?
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 Posted 09/08/2016  9:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list
I was stating a point of fact and not stereotyping any people in general. If you remain here you will learn that your part of the World along with Eastern Europe and China are notorious for producing fake coins. I meant no offense but you jumped to conclusions. I am here to help if I can along with the others here. You have posted several coins that have raised doubts with the members. You seem to doubt what we are telling you. So why are you asking us if you know better? Your coin beyond any doubt in my mind is a fake, the coin referenced by Biancasdad is from a well know auction house that sell genuine coins. If you don't like what we are telling you, your more than welcome to go someplace else. But I'm sure they will tell you the same thing. Lastly you should watch your words with me or other members here, we don't take kindly to rudeness.
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 Posted 09/08/2016  10:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jaztal to your friends list
@echizento my coins without any doubt are authintic and genuine and your inputs are wrong and misleading to all.

If your talking about my part of the world again, then revert to your part and be more aware of what you recently see on TV and the cause thereof. Are you also aware of what have been stolen of the parts of the world you just mentioned! We are here to exchange knowledge rather than taking about something else. Be respectful so people respect you in return.
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 Posted 09/08/2016  10:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list
Look this is a coin forum and World affairs have no place in it. You obviously don't want to believe what people are trying to tell you. If you believe your coins are real more power to you. We are trying to help but you know more than we do. We can't teach you anything. So there really is no need for you to be on this forum. Good luck and goodbye.
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 Posted 09/08/2016  10:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yaztal to your friends list
@echizento You are obviously contradicting yourself by yourself. If you re-read your previous posts you will fully understand how wrongful and misleading you are.

What people were telling is the truth but you are telling something totally otherwise. Go back to all relevant posts and see what people are telling about @jaztal posts. The matter of blocking people refers to how weak and misleading you are. One finds it hard to understand how Coin Community appointed you a moderator.
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 Posted 09/09/2016  09:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mylimebug to your friends list
Not any question about this one NOT being authentic.

I have three coins in my collection of this type. And can say with absolute certainty that this coin is NOT authentic. The fabric of the coin is not right. There are no authentic coins of this type that are overweight by this much. And the style of this coin is so far off that it is actually a crude & comical forgery.

Jaztal - Just look at the vast number of authentic coins of this type on the internet... Look at the style, weight and fabric of them. And it will become obvious that this coin is a tourist forgery.
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