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My Twelve Caesar's Denarius Collection Completed

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 Posted 09/21/2016  10:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NorthSideTy to your friends list
Beautiful set!
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 Posted 09/22/2016  12:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add caesar77 to your friends list
To answer some questions.....

I acquired them without a chronological order in mind. However, while the Julius Caesar is the most rare and expensive of the set, the Caligula took the longest because I was aiming for a great portrait. I think the Caligula, Claudius, and Julius Caesar are the hardest to find. This collection is valued at around 25k, albeit I am sure it could be done for less. I really overpaid on the Nero, because I really liked that coin. In Bronze it could be done for less. I think I tried it via Vcoins and managed a set for $3000, excepting one emperor whom I believe has limited or no bronze, I can't think of his name off the top of my head. As we all know coin quality varies as do prices. Do you want portraits, legends? I picked up a Bronze low quality Caligula for $100, but sold it off and went silver. My client has the 12 Caesars in Gold, and we assembled it for around $270,000.
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 Posted 09/22/2016  03:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bacchus2 to your friends list
What a great set. The artistry of those early celators was just awesome.
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 Posted 09/22/2016  05:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
WOW !
That is some achievement!
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 Posted 09/22/2016  07:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jackpot777 to your friends list
A big Congratulations!
I'm not an ancients collector myself, but I have always found their historical significance and old age to be
fascinating.
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09/22/2016 07:03 am
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 Posted 09/22/2016  5:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jskirwin to your friends list
Truly beautiful. +1 for the Vespasian Judea Capta.
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 Posted 09/23/2016  08:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TypeCoin971793 to your friends list
Incredible set! All of the coins are beautiful. Well done!
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 Posted 09/23/2016  10:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Finn235 to your friends list
Very nicely done! I am particularly fond of that Claudius praetorian camp!

I am curious to know what the "price floor" would be for such a set; any coins in any conditions. I know that Julius Caesar, Tiberius, Caligula, Galba, Vitellius, and Otho are very tough in any issue, but I bet the rest could be done pretty cheap, especially if you allow provincials.
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 Posted 09/23/2016  4:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add caesar77 to your friends list
I researched the least expensive option for acquiring the 12 Caesar Set, all Denarius, except Caligula via the VCOINS site. Also, someone is selling via ebay for 15,000 a set they picked up for $2500 via CNG. Nice markup if you can get it. The set I came up with is around $4250, but I confess they are a mediocre set of coins. I presume a bronze or provincial set would cost far less.

Via Vcoins:
JC Cr 480/4
$780
Augustus
RIC 180
$170
Tiberius
RIC 30
$200
Caligula
RIC 56
$295
Claudius
RIC 83
$1550
Nero
RIC 68
$250
Galba
RIC 54
$430
Otho
RIC 10
$350
Vitellius
RIC 66
$250
Vespasian
RSC 94h
$90
Titus
RIC 948
$70
Domitian
RIC 691
$85
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 Posted 09/23/2016  6:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add orfew to your friends list
Nice work @Caesar77
The total I spent for my 12 in silver was 4517.00. I guess that means I have a bunch of mediocre coins. LOL











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 Posted 09/23/2016  7:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list
I paid $5 for my Claudius coin, which was totally crappy, here's the thread. So I guess that's the floor.
Didn't someone here get a Galba bronze in a lot recently?

(It's really about the Galba/Otho/Vitellius triple - Otho especially, because his only bronzes are provincial - and perhaps to a lesser extent Julius Caesar. Don't know much about Caligula though.
I'm not really planning such a ridiculous set anyway, don't have that kind of money; even if I had, I'd rather buy a tremissis instead, it's a lot cheaper.)
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09/23/2016 7:17 pm
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 Posted 09/23/2016  7:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Palouche to your friends list
I've just done a very quick sweep of V coins and Ma shops and have come up with a bronze set ...in my eyes.. ..ok...remembering you can get better and worse coins for this price!! About 1600 euros and if you can spread that out over a year its not too bad ...!!

What do you think?
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 Posted 09/23/2016  9:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list
Based on these discussions, it seems like $2K-$3K for a bronze set, $5K-$25K for silver and $250K for gold. Interestingly, it works out to almost exactly an order of magnitude between each metal.

@orfew, clearly you have found some great deals and are on the lower end of the range for spending--well done!
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 Posted 09/24/2016  12:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add captainyesterday555 to your friends list
Congratulations on completing the set. On to the next collecting effort!
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 Posted 09/24/2016  12:48 am  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list
Sweet set. Thank you for sharing these coins with us.
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