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Yikes!! Is This A Repair?

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 Posted 10/24/2016  10:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list
Maybe the discoloration on the flat spot just above the eye? It doesn't look like a filled hole to me, but I'm interested to what others have to say.
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 Posted 10/24/2016  10:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list
The area that I am seeing that could be a repair is to the right of the eye.
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 Posted 10/25/2016  05:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cipster to your friends list
It's the nose area. It appears filled at the side and there is an unfilled area at the tip of the nose.
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 Posted 10/25/2016  05:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add twslisa to your friends list
Are you talking about the slightly lighter area immediately to the right? I wouldn't know a repair if I saw one (unless it looked like a bandaid), but I'm trying to see what you see.
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 Posted 10/25/2016  05:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add twslisa to your friends list
We cross-posted. Anyway, now I see the chip at the tip of the nose. And a slightly lighter area to the right of the nose. If it IS a repair, you have great eyes! Can't wait to see what the experts say.
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 Posted 10/25/2016  06:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add twslisa to your friends list
Just for reference, I pulled out my 1832 Capped Bust. This one has considerably more wear than yours, but I liked the way the dark toning (is that what it's called, when its black?) made the other features stand out.

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Anyway, here's a tight view of the same area. I see a lot of differences in a number of details. I'll be curious what people say.

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 Posted 10/25/2016  09:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TypeCoin971793 to your friends list
I see nothing wrong. The unfilled area on the tip of the nose appears to just be a hit.
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 Posted 10/25/2016  10:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GR58 to your friends list
I am leaning to ...
The right side of the note took a hit that flatten that area.
Then the end of the nose has a hit /chip.

I am thinking in hand .. that area does not look bad.

Many of my coins would look very bad .. if I was looking through a microscope.
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 Posted 10/25/2016  4:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Good pics, @twslisa. To me, just some random circulation marks.
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 Posted 10/25/2016  6:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cipster to your friends list
Thanks to all who responded as I'm feeling better about the perceived repair that is perhaps not a repair.

Thanks GR58 for reminding me that I'm looking at a picture from a 100x microscope.

Here's my original thinking - as flawed as it may have been.



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I was looking at the area at the side of the nose with the red arrows. It looked like someone applied a tiny patch and didn't get it perfectly smooth to the coin surface. It also looked like the ding at the end of the nose (green arrow) was part of that damage and didn't get repaired.

I have several other 1834 bust halfs and when I look at them through the microscope I'm seeing a similar situation where the side of the nose looks irregular. I'm no expert and am speaking beyond my knowledge. Perhaps the master hub contained this supposed suspicious nose area - all my 1834's seem to look rather similar to the one I posted.

Maybe all is well with this coin and it would grade problem free?
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 Posted 10/25/2016  7:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Buddy to your friends list
Poor thing took a hit right on the tip of her nose.

I was suspect of the red arrow area. It sort of looks like somebody tried to carve out a shape that had been flattened.

But why do that and leave the gouge at the tip of the nose?

Great pics.
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 Posted 10/25/2016  8:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bandsdean to your friends list
Looks good to me. Perhaps it didn't get fullt struck up in that area. R4 excellent!
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 Posted 10/26/2016  11:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cipster to your friends list

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BANDSDEAN: Looks good to me. Perhaps it didn't get fully struck up in that area. R4 excellent!


I did some addition research this morning.

In addition to the Parsley Die Varieties book I have a copy of Bust Half Fever by Souders. Souders talks about the transitional dies in 1834 (small letters) and does make a specific reference to this area of the obverse.


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The nostril most often has a flat spot that appears to be wear - which in actuality never struck up and is very flat. The same is true of the end of the bust and the large curl above the eye.
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 Posted 10/26/2016  12:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Buddy to your friends list
Well, that's an interesting bit of information.

This is one of those cases where it's hard for a collector to gather enough samples to compare.
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 Posted 10/27/2016  06:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add twslisa to your friends list
Speaking of that curl above the eye, once that area flattens, it really looks like she's growing horns!
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