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The First Ten Million Dollar Coin: 1794 Neil Carter Specimen Silver Dollar

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 Posted 11/17/2016  12:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list
If I could only win a lottery.

Of course I suppose I'd have to actually buy a ticket...
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 Posted 11/17/2016  2:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ArrowsAndRays to your friends list
It's an $8,525,000 coin.
The 17.5% buyer's premium isn't a coin.
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 Posted 11/17/2016  2:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jaxenro to your friends list
The Eagle looks like it's starving, didn't they feed them back then? Don't like the pose on the girl either. I understand the attraction due to rarity, condition, and the rest but if I had money to spend in such vast quantities I think I would get a coin I found attractive
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 Posted 11/17/2016  3:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list



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But I can not think of me being rich enough to spend 10 million on it.
It might be fun to think about, but you are right, not in this lifetime.
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 Posted 11/17/2016  4:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RoyCoinBoy to your friends list
Hey, if I become a multi billionaire, I give some of these to all ya
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 Posted 11/17/2016  4:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Andrew99 to your friends list
"It's an $8,525,000 coin.
The 17.5% buyer's premium isn't a coin.

Wrong. Buyer's premium are always considered part of the cost as the buyer is aware of it and has to pay it.
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The world's most valuable coin ever sold at auction, the 1794 Flowing Hair Dollar graded PCGS SP66 and believed by many experts to be the first silver dollar struck by the United States, will be publicly displayed in the U.S. for the first time since it was purchased at auction three years ago for $10 million by Spokane business executive Bruce Morelan. It is the world's highest price ever paid for a rare coin.

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That record-setting coin, along with Morelan's entire 12-coin PCGS Set RegistryŠ collection of U.S. Flowing Hair and Draped Bust Dollars, ranging in date from 1794 to 1803, will be displayed by Professional Coin Grading Service (www.PCGS.com) at the Florida United Numismatists convention in Fort Lauderdale, Thursday through early Saturday afternoon, January 5 - 7, 2017.

"Not only will this be the first time the magnificent 1794 Dollar will be seen in the United States since its headline-making auction in January 2013, this actually will be the first time anywhere that Mr. Morelan's outstanding set of early dollars will be publicly exhibited. PCGS is honored to host the first-ever public viewing of this Hall of Fame, number one-ranked Registry set that showcases the finest known coins of their kind," said PCGS President Don Willis.

The 1794 Dollar was displayed earlier this year to enthusiastic visitors at museums in eight European countries. However, it has not been shown in public in the United States since the Stack's Bowers auction three years ago, when it was purchased for Morelan by Laura Sperber of Legend Numismatics for a record-smashing $10,016,875.
Lot 52 $1881-S PCGS MS68 CAC

In addition to the exceptional strike as an apparent presentation piece and its pristine state of preservation, it is the only known 1794 U.S. Dollar with a silver plug. The plug was inserted to obtain the correct planchet weight when the coin was struck on a hand-turned screw press at the Philadelphia Mint on October 15, 1794.

PCGS Co-Founder and Collectors Universe President David Hall recalled the first time he saw the coin in person a decade ago: "It made my heart thump. It's a gorgeous, historical treasure. The strike is so sharp it leads me to believe it is the very first impression of the die. It is easy to surmise that this is probably the first dollar struck in the U.S."

"I have loved that coin ever since I first saw an image of it in the late 1990s. The image has just stuck in my head ever since," said Morelan, who has been collecting coins since his grandmother gave him three old coins including a U.S. Trade dollar when he was six years old. "It's absolutely a dream come true to own this coin!"

Here is a list of all 12 coins from the Bruce Morelan Collection of Early Dollars that will make their public debut as a set at the PCGS booth during the first three days of the FUN convention:

1794 Flowing Hair, graded PCGS SP66, ex. Neil, Carter, Contursi, Cardinal Collection, finest known
1795 Flowing Hair, PCGS MS64+
1795 Draped Bust, PCGS MS66, ex Eliasberg, finest known
1796 Draped Bust, PCGS MS65, finest known
1797 Draped Bust, PCGS MS64, ex. Green and Newman
1798 Draped Bust, Small Eagle, PCGS MS63, ex. Cleneay, Green and Newman, finest known
1798 Draped Bust, Heraldic Eagle, PCGS MS65, ex. Stellar, finest known
1799 Draped Bust, PCGS MS66, ex. Boston
1800 Draped Bust, PCGS MS65+, ex. Fairfield, finest known
1801 Draped Bust, PCGS MS65, finest known
1802/1 Draped Bust, PCGS MS64, ex. Green and Newman, finest known
1803 Draped Bust, PCGS MS65, ex. Green and Newman, finest known

The entire Bruce Morelan Collection of Early Dollars can be conveniently viewed online at PCGS.com/basicearlydollars as part of the free PCGS Digital Coin Album feature that is available to all PCGS Set Registry members. The PCGS Set Registry (www.PCGS.com/setregistry) was established in 2001 and now hosts more than 81,000 sets of U.S. and world coins.

While supplies last, visitors to the PCGS booth at FUN can obtain a free, full-color illustrated, educational brochure about the early dollars set.
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 Posted 11/18/2016  9:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TypeCoin971793 to your friends list

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What makes this coin so valuable is not just its high grade, but its historical significance. The general consensus is that this coin was the first dollar minted by the Philadelphia Mint in 1794.


Sure, but I can get a letter signed by George Washington for less than $50,000. Better deal for the amount of historical significance, IMO.
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 Posted 11/19/2016  07:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fenton to your friends list
Percentage based auction fees get a bit ridiculous at this price point - auctioneer gets $1.5M just to market that coin? They seller could have hired a team of developers and stood up his own custom auction site, as well as hiring a full security staff, for that price.
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 Posted 11/19/2016  09:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list

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The general consensus is that this coin was the first dollar minted by the Philadelphia Mint in 1794.

I still find it hard to believe that if you were striking something as prestigious as a presentation coin of your first every large silver coin that you would select for the planchet an underweight planchet that had to be holed and plugged to bring it up to standard and then filed down across the faces of the planchet to get the weight completely correct. You have other planchets available, pick a better one. No they selected the ONLY one that was holed and plugged. Sorry I don't believe it. It is definitely ONE of the first coins struck (Has to be , it is the earliest die stage known and the only one known from that die stage.), but I don't buy it being THE first one. (The dies were apparently polished for the presentation striking and that gave the next few that PL like surface as well.)
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 Posted 11/19/2016  5:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TypeCoin971793 to your friends list
I had always wondered about the adjustment marks. But we will never know. Perhaps a ploy to fetch a higher price at auction?
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 Posted 11/20/2016  08:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add upstate to your friends list
I think it is crazy that the most valuable coin in existence is holed and plugged



Thank you for bringing this great specimen to my attention
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Percentage based auction fees get a bit ridiculous at this price point - auctioneer gets $1.5M just to market that coin?

I think the auctioneer likely got less than the $1.5 million buyer's fee. People with valuable coins like this one can often ask for a percentage above the bid. I recall reading a article which said that one of the reasons the major auction house raised their buyer's premium from 15% was to be able to offer the consignor a higher percentage above the bid in order to compete with the other auction houses for the high end coins and collections.
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 Posted 11/20/2016  3:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ArrowsAndRays to your friends list

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"It's an $8,525,000 coin.
The 17.5% buyer's premium isn't a coin."

Wrong. Buyer's premium are always considered part of the cost as the buyer is aware of it and has to pay it.


How much did the seller sell the coin for?
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The Eagle looks like it's starving, didn't they feed them back then?


That's funny!
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