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1983-P Jefferson Nickel...what's The Verdict?

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 Posted 11/13/2016  1:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cheifbrody to your friends list
Hmmm...the coin is not bent...and that is not a scratch on the obverse...it's a raised mark..not incused.
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 Posted 11/13/2016  2:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pete2226 to your friends list
A possibility for the reverse, from UNUM (autocorrect will not let me type the third letter of UNUM!) to the dome, is a feeder finger gouge.
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11/13/2016 2:47 pm
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 Posted 11/13/2016  4:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cheifbrody to your friends list
Not sure about a gouge..it's raised...similar mark going under the "c" and "E" in monticello...and what would cause the raised "half moon" shape on Jefferson's head on the obverse...don't see a smashed coin causing that..it would be incused.
















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 Posted 11/13/2016  4:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pete2226 to your friends list

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Not sure about a gouge..it's raised


A die gouge would be raised on the coin
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 Posted 11/13/2016  4:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cheifbrody to your friends list
Yes...my ignorance...i was thinking planchet gouge...die gouge would fill with metal...my bad.
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 Posted 11/13/2016  4:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cheifbrody to your friends list
Well wait...is a feeder finger gouge the same as a die gouge?...think I was right the first time...lol
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 Posted 11/13/2016  4:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pete2226 to your friends list

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Well wait...is a feeder finger gouge the same as a die gouge?


It is a die gouge caused by a feeder finger.
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 Posted 11/13/2016  5:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cheifbrody to your friends list
Ahh...ok...guess that's a possible theory..I'll look into that..I appreciate the opinions
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 Posted 11/13/2016  8:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinMasters to your friends list
Yes, Cheifbrody, gouges whether feeder finger or otherwise, are incuse on the die and raised on the coin. The only question left is what is on your coin. It doesn't look like any feeder finger gouges I have ever seen.
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 Posted 11/14/2016  07:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cheifbrody to your friends list
Yea..I just misunderstood when he said feeder finger gouge..didn't know he meant die gouge...and I have no idea what it could be..looks like a coins edge on the obverse...idk
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 Posted 11/14/2016  3:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cheifbrody to your friends list
Couple closer pics...I'm stumped..lol

1983-P-Jefferson-Nickel...what's-The-Verdict?

1983-P-Jefferson-Nickel...what's-The-Verdict?
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 Posted 11/14/2016  10:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinMasters to your friends list
It's a tough one to figure Chief. I just can't believe the "raised" areas on the obverse were actually recessed on the die, particularly in the normal recesses like Jefferson's head. I think the obverse is PSD. Sometimes, PSD can displace the metal and actually make part of it raised. Circulation can then disguise the "tool" marks.
The reverse raised area is in the field, as would be expected for a gouge in the die. Pete could be right, it might have been caused by a feeder finger.
If it was my coin, I'd throw it in my oddities bucket and hope someday I would have the expertise to definitively identify it.
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 Posted 11/15/2016  09:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cheifbrody to your friends list
I hear ya "coinmasters"...funny thing is that this came out of my oddities jar...guess i'll throw it back in..lol
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 Posted 11/15/2016  11:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinMasters to your friends list
I go through mine once every great while. I do find some that I once didn't know what they were.
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 Posted 11/16/2016  05:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pete2226 to your friends list
I remember throwing back a dual sided trial die because I didn't know what it was!
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