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@numidan It could be a weak strike. IMHO, it shouldn't be a hijinx work, as they are just too tiny to polish without damaging the others. It's just not worth the fine work for a few bucks. Anyways, there was a sale for 2 sets already this morning though.
Edited by VanCanCollections 11/23/2016 5:05 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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I think weak strike as well. Look how flat the other rivets are to the upper left in the right image compared with the round ones on the left image. It reminds me of the flatness of parts of the shield on the reverse of a 1948 half.
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@ SPP when I went to the Mint in Ottawa I asked during the tour if dies were made from a master die and if reducing machines were still used, the guide was not sure so she arranged for me to speak with someone else at the end of the tour. That is when I was told that the hubs were created directly from design by CNC tools. Like other info on the Mint's site the se3ction on die making is probably outdated. With the number of NCLT issues and fairly low mintages of each someone should be canned if they don't have direct design to die capability in 2016.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning... -from PCGS website
Edited by DBM 11/24/2016 11:03 am
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Ottawa makes things like medals, Trade dollars on order, custom bullion strikes and a ridiculous amount of NCLT, some of which the largest ones are cast, not struck. When I went to Winnipeg and spoke to some production engineers, CNC tools were not used for production of working dies striking coins for circulation (and other countries)... I was told that the reason was not for modernization, but for maximum life of the die itself (cost and savings), which is why our coins don't look like those from Bangladesh and India (they hammer those dies and until there is almost no design left on the coin...). If we have CNC for those, then the doubled die loonies and twoonies of 2011 and 2012 should not exist.... The main change to the dies was the introduction of titanium to plate dies, a change from chrome, in 2008. We can at least agree that this is a production coin made in Winnipeg and not NCLT in Ottawa.
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intresting keep my eyes open for what is out there.
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Canada
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Upon taking a closer look at my 5 pack, one is missing the dots; however, overall thsee coins are so badly scratched and dinged it's surprising they were put in a protective package. Deep scratches gouged into many of the main devices! Plastic is pristine so it is obvious they were damaged prior to being packaged. Worst quality I've seen in a 5 pack.
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@CoinCollectic
From more than 10 coin packs that were inspected in my end, there is none of them missing the dots, but lots of scratches and ding as you mentioned. =(
I guess you have a better luck than me, as least you found one.
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@Bigchip22
This coin has been out for more than 3 months since the release, haven't seen a lot of them in circulation, let alone the variety. Did you happen to find any?
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I went through my coin packs (10), didn't find any missing the dots.
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@Tee
Me neither. I would only assume the coin packs and the coins roll were produced from different batches.
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The post on ebay states they counted the no dot $2 coins in one box of twoonies to come up with their estimate of 5%. It does state that this figure is only an estimate. I'll try to find my 5 coin packs and check them when I get a chance. Assuming the number of no dots is 5% of the total mintage, would anyone be willing to pay over face value for them? How much over face value is reasonable nowadays?
Edited by Redzapsid 02/28/2017 7:45 pm
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@Redzapsid
According to the listing, there were 15 pairs sold, price ranging from C$13.4 to C$17.43 plus shipping. I think collectors would buy them and hold on to them waiting for the varieties being cataloged in the future.
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I have found five of these toonies in circulation and two rolls from a bank. Two of the circulation finds have the dots missing, I have not opened the rolls yet but the enders have the dots in place. 
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@denny7000
Very interesting...so seems like the no dots coin does exist in the circulation.
Just need to pay attention to the change in your pocket...thanks Denny for sharing a pic.
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