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Dipped Or Original Skin? 1833 Capped Bust

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 Posted 11/28/2016  11:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MikeF to your friends list
You guys can zoom in for a better look here: https://coins.ha.com/itm/bust-half-...1648-29226.s
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 Posted 11/29/2016  03:07 am  Show Profile   Check Zurie's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list
Looks dipped and retoned to me.
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 Posted 11/29/2016  08:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kanga to your friends list

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I picked it up for $353.

Very good price for that grade.
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 Posted 11/29/2016  08:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dsfreeworld to your friends list
the pics of the coin on HA are much more revealing than these are. I don't think the coin has been cleaned save a water and rag wash 100 plus years ago.

Why this coin Mike? Are you type collecting or going after a specific series? I only ask because this issue has 326 graded at AU55 by PCGS alone and I am sure NGC has a few hundred themselves at AU55. There are probably much better examples for the money but you'll need time and patience in order to get that prime eye appeal.

I am no expert, believe me. I try to learn daily when it comes to Numismatics but one thing I have learned to an expert level over the years is patience. This is the sole piece of advice that has been given time and time again to me by those with decades in Numismatics. I raise this point to you because I believe you to be in a financial position that a lot of collectors, especially new ones, are not in. When you have money and little experience, Numismatics can trap you into buying what is not the best choice or bang for your buck. I have been there and it took me a bit of time to learn this very painful financial lesson.

Personally, and by the opinions I am seeing, this is not a coin you should have for your type example of a common date bust half especially at $353. Please take no offense, this is about learning and growing. Eye appeal is THE MOST important of almighty swords that you wield in numismatics at our level. You want the "CAC" example, not the common look, IF you can locate it and snag it. It takes all the stars being aligned and yes, you will lose and miss more than you win and hit, but you'll be happier in the long run.



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 Posted 11/29/2016  08:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list
Looking at the high res images in full size from the Heritage site I can see some surviving Lustre amongst the devices and the design.
I can see NO evidence of cleaning and if this coin has been dipped at some stage it hasn't stripped all the remaining lustre.
I would say that AU55 is Spot On
I would also guess that the coin will look a lot nicer "In Hand" than it does from the Heritage images.

A nice coin Mate , Well done
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 Posted 11/29/2016  12:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MikeF to your friends list

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I am no expert, believe me. I try to learn daily when it comes to Numismatics but one thing I have learned to an expert level over the years is patience. This is the sole piece of advice that has been given time and time again to me by those with decades in Numismatics. I raise this point to you because I believe you to be in a financial position that a lot of collectors, especially new ones, are not in. When you have money and little experience, Numismatics can trap you into buying what is not the best choice or bang for your buck. I have been there and it took me a bit of time to learn this very painful financial lesson.


dsfreeworld,I appreciate this. I feel like I'm getting better command at valuing coins. I feel comfortable with what I paid for this coin and at $353 I see it as good value. Only a week ago, I probably would have purchased a shiny dipped coin but I settled on this one because of it's original state. But I understand what your saying about eye appeal.

I picked up this one at the same auction. It was a hole I needed to fill in my CC collection. Eye appeal comes at a price as I paid $376 for it but it's just a ridiculous coin.


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 Posted 11/29/2016  1:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bpoc1 to your friends list
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but it's just a ridiculous coin


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 Posted 12/01/2016  1:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add acloco to your friends list
Please advise when you have coin in hand.
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 Posted 12/02/2016  01:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MikeF to your friends list

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Please advise when you have coin in hand.


Will do and I will upload pics.
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 Posted 12/02/2016  07:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TypeCoin971793 to your friends list

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Looking at the high res images in full size from the Heritage site I can see some surviving Lustre amongst the devices and the design.
I can see NO evidence of cleaning and if this coin has been dipped at some stage it hasn't stripped all the remaining lustre.
I would say that AU55 is Spot On
I would also guess that the coin will look a lot nicer "In Hand" than it does from the Heritage images.

A nice coin Mate , Well done


Late to the party. My thoughts exactly.
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 Posted 12/07/2016  5:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MikeF to your friends list
In hand

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 Posted 12/07/2016  6:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list
Lots of lovely luster. This only tells us for the 10 millionth time that giving opinions based on photos only, even good photos, is often misleading.
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 Posted 12/25/2016  03:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fathead 5 to your friends list
Looks a bit overgraded to me; maybe AU50 to AU53.
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 Posted 12/25/2016  2:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add EarlyTurban to your friends list
Dipped and retoned.
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