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1879-S Morgan Dollar - Guess The Grade On The Rattler...

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 Posted 11/30/2016  07:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinCollector2012 to your friends list
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 Posted 11/30/2016  08:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list
Big silver - thanks for pointing that out. Didnt know that it would be embedded there.
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 Posted 11/30/2016  09:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list
Probably MS-63 when it was first slabbed. Now an easy MS-64.
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 Posted 11/30/2016  10:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list
I believe the assigned grade is correct at today's standards (as far as I can tell from the images posted). Probably the reason it's still in a rattler.
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 Posted 11/30/2016  10:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list
Is the concensus that grading was stricter and has loosened recently? As a result it was overgraded when originally put in the old holder and has caught up?
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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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 Posted 11/30/2016  4:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Obverse pic really does not show the surface well at all, so I won't even take a stab.
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 Posted 11/30/2016  6:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add murty to your friends list

Look like was graded ms-63
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I'll guess MS-63 also
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I would think MS-64 from those pictures, with a change at MS-65.
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 Posted 11/30/2016  9:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gargriff49 to your friends list
I'll guess MS-65. Like the slab says
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Hopefully some better pics.

1879-S-Morgan-Dollar---Guess-The-Grade-On-The-Rattler...

1879-S-Morgan-Dollar---Guess-The-Grade-On-The-Rattler...
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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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 Posted 12/01/2016  6:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dave H to your friends list
High MS, but has rim damage in 3 places (@ 10, 2 & 6). It should've received a details grade due have been mounted in jewelry, a coin clip, or something similar
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 Posted 12/01/2016  7:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BigSilver to your friends list

Quote:
but had rim damage

I don't think those are on the coin.
I believe that they are the holder.
Look at pictures of other rattlers and you will see what I am saying.
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 Posted 12/02/2016  08:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add PAC to your friends list

Quote:
I don't think those are on the coin.
I believe that they are the holder.
Look at pictures of other rattlers and you will see what I am saying.


Just wanted to reiterate / agree that this is the marks being referred to. Rattlers have those little notches along the rim.
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