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Mintages For 2016 "Regular" Coins

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 Posted 05/18/2017  09:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list
Go back to boutique ask nicely if you could buy a roll or two, or keep buying odd price items and ask for loonie change, but most likely the published figure is correct
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 Posted 05/18/2017  2:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add unruhjonny to your friends list
is is typical for the mint to use new coins in their change drawers;
As a kid visiting the Winnipeg mint, this was normally how I got my new coins - I just exchanged them from the till - this was a normal thing back then... this was how I got a handful of 1991 quarters, regretably, I only kept one.

Also prior to 1996(?), this was how I would normally get all my yearly denominations up to the fifty cent piece(!) - this was when the fifty cent piece was still officially a circulation coin...
Most of my visits I'd buy an uncirculated set or something of the like, then while the till was opened, I would exchange coins at liberty.
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 Posted 05/28/2017  10:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jazzy to your friends list
I visited the mint botique today here in Ottawa, and asked to purchase a roll of loonies as John suggested. The staff told me that they stopped selling rolls of circulation coins "about 2 years ago". They told me that they only sell the special wrapped rolls that were on display. Has anyone else been able to get a roll of coins from the mint recently?
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 Posted 05/29/2017  3:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add unruhjonny to your friends list
that is complete bunk.

I have found the following when dealing with staff at the (winnipeg) mint boutique;
1) probably a good 80% of them act like know-it-all's, this is not always a bad thing, but often when I am asking I know the facts, so I know when I am being BS'd.
2) stories seem to change depending on which staff member you speak to.
3) The mint DOES sell rolls of coins atthe boutique, but they specialize in selling items which are catered to "collectors" eg: special wrapped rolls (the regular stuff is now in shrink wrap plastic).
4) To the best of my knowledge, the boutiques only offer to sell rolls of current calender year circulation coins.
5) the mint used to offer selling rolls through their online sales, but seem to only now offer that to the small percentage of buying club membership - which is had by purchasing product from the mint in excess of a given dollar amount - something north of $1k iirc

I purchased two rolls from a local retailer;
You had better believe they purchased them from the mint.
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05/29/2017 3:15 pm
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 Posted 05/29/2017  4:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wizard1 to your friends list
Here you go:

2016 Mintages

5 Cents 140,952,000
10 Cents 220,000,000
25 Cents 106,880,000
Loonie 28,764,000
Lucky Loonie 5,000,000
Women's Right Loonie 5,000,000
Toonie 20,669,000
Toonie Battle of Atlantic 5,000,000
Edited by Wizard1
05/29/2017 4:30 pm
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 Posted 05/29/2017  4:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alan to your friends list
A person could just call the boutique and say "hello, do you still sell mint rolls of the current year's coins at a 5% premium over face value like you used to."

I know they don't because I called but if you would like to know for certain for yourself give them a call, maybe they'll answer differently?
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 Posted 05/29/2017  7:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CC-Ottawa to your friends list
So there were more regular loonies minted in 2016 than in 2015 or 2014? So much for the rumor mill. Missed that one by a country mile.
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 Posted 05/30/2017  4:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add unruhjonny to your friends list
regaurding this post:


Quote:
2016 Mintages

5 Cents 140,952,000
10 Cents 220,000,000
25 Cents 106,880,000
Loonie 28,764,000
Lucky Loonie 5,000,000
Women's Right Loonie 5,000,000
Toonie 20,669,000
Toonie Battle of Atlantic 5,000,000


Since the mint stopped disclosing exact details of what was minted, it is still my option that during the 2016 calendar year, both regular 2016 loons, as well as 2017 loons, and possible 2017 circulation loons were minted;
I am also of the mindset that during the 2016 calendar year that 2016 & 2017 polar bear $2 coins, as well as possibly 2017 circulation $2 coins were minted.

To those who scoff at me, please point out where there is mention of 2017 polar bear $2 coins being minted during 2016 - because there is no mention of it - but we know they were minted because of THIS thread.

That one coin indisputably proves that the mint isn't being 100% forward with what it is minting.
Sure it minted X number of Y coins, but anything more broken down which might assist collectors is no longer provided by the mint.

It's really too bad, because it sure helped us to know exactly what & how much was minted;
EG: 2006P penny, 1991 Quarter...
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 Posted 05/30/2017  4:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add unruhjonny to your friends list

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So there were more regular loonies minted in 2016 than in 2015 or 2014? So much for the rumor mill. Missed that one by a country mile.

In both of those years, I observed a flood of new coins prior to the year's end.
I have yet to found a single circulating 2016 loon.
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 Posted 05/30/2017  5:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CC-Ottawa to your friends list
I'm not sure I follow this. The only circ coins for 2017 minted so far are the Canada150 designs and the 25 cent Stanley Cup. Any of the regular designs dated 2017 are in NCLT packaging and not circulation coins...ie. not available through the banking system or at face value.

This table seems pretty clear unless we are to believe the Mint is producing inaccurate audited annual reports. Not saying that isn't possible but I don't see anything to suggest that here.

Mintages-For-2016-

The only explanation I can suggest for the early 2017 toonie is that it was considered NCLT and the Mint has not yet provided details of NCLT coins produced in 2016 as far as I know.
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 Posted 05/30/2017  8:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add unruhjonny to your friends list
EDIT:

hmm...

that does appear to be rather air tight.

time will tell as to how accurate that is.

hopefully I didn't waste too much on these 2016 loons!
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05/30/2017 8:26 pm
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 Posted 05/30/2017  8:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list
As I was told by the nice person who runs the bulk order dept. also takes orders from the banks central depots for coinage, the country is divided into 4 to 5 districts, the RCM only send coins on demand, if TD has enough recycle loonies in inventory there will be no orders and the same goes for the other banks because it cost money to ship coins. I assume there is a special ministers order to circulate the 150 coinage and the vast majority of the 2016 regular loonies are just sitting in storage waiting for demand orders or the ARP program to cause a shortage. It's hard to contradict the published figure without some inside info.
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05/30/2017 8:40 pm
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 Posted 05/30/2017  10:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alan to your friends list
Remember guy found a 2017 toon in Winnipeg in a field in summer 2016.

People that hunt change and rolls aren't finding the 2016 loon so who knows something's up with that report I think.
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 Posted 05/31/2017  6:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add unruhjonny to your friends list

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Remember guy found a 2017 toon in Winnipeg in a field in summer 2016.

People that hunt change and rolls aren't finding the 2016 loon so who knows something's up with that report I think.

I have tried pointing this out.

It has been suggested that that coin would have been struck as non-circulation, and therefore not included in yearly mintages - but frankly, I am skeptical of this...

If they become common, maybe I'll be proven wrong.

Until that time, I will remain firmly entrenched in my skepticism.
Edited by unruhjonny
05/31/2017 6:05 pm
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 Posted 05/31/2017  10:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list
Most industries like the auto introduces next years model a few months ahead, that 2017 toonie was probably just a preproduction trial piece, how it got out is another story. Whether these 2016 loonies are minted in 2016 or 2015 makes no difference if the mintage is in the 20 million range. The reason we haven't seen many 2016 loonie in change is as mentioned and the influx of special 150 coinage
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